On hitting your head against a brick wall

LOL

Sid, if you ever catch AIDS, I can show you how to cure it with Omming and Mudra for £129.95 😉

And I’ll throw in a free organic gluten-free chocolate-chip chakra too.

Where’s the kid!?

Having taken a kid who had very serious issues with breathing to the emergency department, usually after talking to the on call doctor on the phone, this drives me crazy!

One time we left Thanksgiving dinner with the grandparents because the child was having difficultly breathing. We did not call the answering service and turned off the freeway to go directly to Children’s Hospital. His oxygen level was below 80% and he was admitted, but we had to pay more because we did not get pre-approval.

All four times was due to croup, not pertussis. Trust me, spending nights at the hospital is not fun, even when it is not Thanksgiving. Aaaargh!

I can’t imagine what would have happened if he had pertussis.

Considering that he was diagnosed with a very severe genetic heart condition when he was a teenager, I might actually be discussing his burial. Think about it you idiotic anti-vax people.

@Sid Offit Troll:
As opposed to the risk of NOT taking the child to hospital and having him or her die in front of us.
Earlier this year I attended the funeral of my parent’s neighbours’ daughter. She was just 18 years old. She was a diabetic with hypothyroidism and her mother walked into her room only to find her having an attack. She died in hospital.
Sid, there are things I’d like to call you but Orac’s filters would gobble them immediately.

Julian Frost, if you take the fact that Sid Troll wrote that ten minutes after me, it shows that he and his troll friends are complete idiots. This proves that he, Little Augie, Th1Th2, the yoga guy, and their friends should be ignored.

Thank you, Snake Eyes.

And just as an aside… I really do not understand Munchhausen Syndrome by Proxy. I hate hospitals, and it is not good when a couple sees you outside the elevator and says “You look like you know where everything is!”, and I could direct them to where they needed to go.

I am so glad that the hospital has changed enough in the last ten years that I can now get lost. I am no longer that familiar with where everything is, because I don’t have to spend so much time there.

Think about that, trolls.

Sorry it’s:

http://www.terminal-cancer-cure.com/

That other thread inspired me to do some more googling (sorry It’s not very scientific).

You know what else cures cancer, apparently? Good old pot! wtf? Brings new meaning to ‘my body is a temple’ when you see them all puffing away in Rishikesh!

But hey, this is a thread about dangerous alternative treatments. Surely these dangerous alternative cancer treatments don’t belong here?

If people are using it to help them eat (from chemo killing appetite), then if pot really did cure cancer someone would have noticed these guys were living longer, surely?

Here’s how I see it.

Bob-o has stated time and again on his blog, on his generation rescue postings, and on his facebook page that he has never taken his 15 year-old, unvaccinated daughter to the doctor. So he’s an outlier. Like all good, human outliers, he believes himself to be the standard, not the exception.

Also, he is one of those “rugged individuals” who don’t need no stinkin’ help from the government. If you’re up for a good nosebleed, go read some of his stuff. It’s all a bunch of whining about the government this, the government that, Offit this, Mnookin that, public health this, vaccines that. I mean, if I didn’t know any better, I’d say that his 15 year-old wrote that stuff. (The whining really does bleed through.)

And here’s a gem from Mr. Schecter:

Here’s another example of a reporter demonstrating her belief that an utter lack of knowledge about infectious illnesses qualifies one to write about infectious illnesses.

He whines that a reporter shouldn’t be writing about infectious diseases because she doesn’t know about infectious diseases. Then, right after that, Mr. Schecter, who holds no formal training in infectious diseases, GOES ON TO WRITE ABOUT INFECTIOUS DISEASES!

The irony.

Thank you Snake Eyes and friends for the video and the link to the facebook page “Doctor” Tenpenny Getting Rich off Stupidity.

re Ashtanga London (and the other off-topic, perseverating folk often seen here). Our host Orac’s forbearance in not banning these folk is admirable. I don’t really want to do a killfile. I just wish the comment signature was at the top, rather than the bottom so I could get by faster.

I can only quote Gray Falcon:

Mr. Ashtanga London, I only have this to say to you, and nothing else. Do you think we’ll take the word of someone so clueless he doesn’t even realize that it’s rude to post off-topic?

@ Snake Eyes: Truly brilliant video, thanks so much.

@ Chris: It’s hard to believe that you paid extra for the ER visit…especially since your child was admitted through the ER.

Most medical insurance companies have a “stipulation clause” about ER visits that don’t result in an admission for those who use the ER as their primary care provider with truly non-emergency medical problems. Of course, if your child needs a treatment for asthma, seizures or other emerging disorders and is later discharged, you can easily appeal and go further to your state’s insurance department that regulates all providers of medical insurance in the state. I’ve done that in the past, very successfully…so successfully in fact, that the insurance company caved completely every time whenever my son needed IV push anticonvulsants to stop seizures.

@ Rene Najera: Yes, we know the depths of Sid Offal’s science knowledge (nil) and the sick depths of his humor. The same Sid Offal who poked fun at the picture of the young girl on the SBM website, whose face was covered with smallpox pustules.

Hmm, is the incredibly off-topic yogi one of the pothead’s sock puppets.

I just went on a tour of Tenpenny’s website. Oh, wow. That woman needs some serious design input, it is a royal mess.

Of course the most prominent part was this on each page:
© TENPENNY ENTERPRISES

It is all about the money folks. Who cares about the health of children when you can make a buck off of scared parents?

Tenpenny is something else! I sorta spoofed her something fierce today on her own facebook site. Suprise—she’s not too bright! Check it out: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150331682092095&set=a.429350427094.226140.407504242094&type=1&theater

Yo +1 internets to DJzogg!

Doctors should make more art! it’s the weapon of choice for an info-war against deluded illogical folk!

Hey lilady, sorry for yesterday, it all got a bit silly wouldn’t you say?

I’d still like you to take that legal action please, it will be interesting for sure.

How’s progress with:
1) The subpoena
2) Calculating the ‘damages’
3) Locating my ‘assets’?

A medical doctor AND a rap star…they are so green(er) with envy.

Patients must just flock to you and your gangsta ways. Actually it’s just because you’re on their insurance. Venna, want’s to know if you take medicaid, Zdogg. Oh how you love those medicaid patients, don’t you? You thrive on medicaid, right?

@ novalox: Pissed off, foaming at the mouth, choking on its spittle, furiously pecking away at the keyboard with its talons and getting its “jollies”, too.

We should say a special prayer for our “christian” troll..yeah.

@ Chris: Hmm, how bad can The Troll Hunter be, if as the review states:

“They flee back into the woods, where they hide as the troll smells after Christian blood. They return to Hans’ car, where they see the troll turn to stone.”

I think I qualify as a troll hunter, being that I am christian and one-quarter Norwegian as well.

Argh, system ate my less-than signs. Accursed HTML filters…

The line starting with 0 should read:

0 (less than) risk of medical error (less than) (less than) staying home

*sigh*

— Steve

Word up, @Augustine! This is one iatrogenic killa who enjoys your sarcastic style…represent! Now as a fellow purveyor of sarcasm, you should recognize that the ability to recognize said sarcasm is part and parcel of a reasonable human intelligence. Apparently Tenpenny lacks this ability (or perhaps the ability to read…or the ability to watch the video I posted). Fortunately for their health my many medicaid patients lack the idle affluence required to waste time listening to her drivel…and they certainly can’t afford her supplements and “educational” DVDs. West Siiiide!

Word up, @Augustine! This is one iatrogenic killa who enjoys your sarcastic style…represent! Now as a fellow purveyor of sarcasm, you should recognize that the ability to recognize said sarcasm is part and parcel of a reasonable human intelligence. Apparently Tenpenny lacks this ability (or perhaps the ability to read…or the ability to watch the video I posted). Fortunately for their health my many medicaid patients lack the idle affluence required to waste time listening to her drivel…and they certainly can’t afford her supplements and “educational” DVDs. West Siiiide!

Exactly. BTW – I’m autistic and even I could tell right away that was sarcasm (though I did have the context ahead of time, so who knows).

It would be extremely easy to make a video from the other side of the fence.
Like this: Person goes to their doctor with symptoms of irritability, spaciness, anxiety.
Doctor with God-complex tries to give them some psychiatric drug.
“No, I don’t think so”
They go to the health food store. Mention their symptoms to someone, who says “Maybe you have a food allergy. Have you tried an elimination diet?”
They do. oh my God, it works!!! They’re gluten intolerant and get sick from some non-gluten foods too, and the psychiatric/neurological symptoms go away when they take the foods out of their diet.
Doctor goes home. Snaps at his wife when she asks him if he remembered to pick up bread and milk at the grocery store. He didn’t.
Last panel: doctor’s big white paranoid eyes in the darkness.

Don’t forget – or learn – that The Other Side Has A Point, Too.

I could totally make that video. Except I think at the end the patient’s spouse, skeptical of how much it is costing the family to eat all these special foods that the health store manager keeps pushing on them, starts slipping the questionable ingredients back in to the person’s diet, and -surprise- the placebo effect continues to work.

Meanwhile, the Doctor spends a few minutes in bed reasoning through the situation and recognizes that the research indicates that irritability, spaciness, and anxiety in the absence of specific gastointestinal complaints are not signs of gluten sensitivity or food allergy. He sleeps quite well after that.