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They say that about the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation as though it were a bad thing

Why is it after a three day weekend, it always feels as though I have to “catch up”? After all, it’s only one day more than the average weekend, and I didn’t really do anything that different. A little yard work, out to dinner, a bit of grant writing, a bit of chilling, that’s it. Maybe it’s because pseudoscience and quackery never rest, while, my never-sleeping, computer-inspired moniker notwithstanding, I do. I have to, particularly as age creeps up on me. In any case, right before the Labor Day weekend, I felt a disturbance in the antivaccine crankosphere. It began Wednesday, with a post by Sayer Ji entitled Gates Foundation Funds Surveillance of Anti-Vaccine Groups. We’ve met Ji before when he made the outrageously silly claim that vaccines are “transhumanism” that “subverts evolution.” This time around, he’s outraged—outraged, I say!—that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has awarded a grant to Seth Kalichman, a professor in the Department of Psychology at the University of Connecticut, entitled “Establishing an Anti-Vaccine Surveillance and Alert System,” whose goal is to “establish an internet-based global monitoring and rapid alert system for finding, analyzing, and counteracting misinformation communication campaigns regarding vaccines to support global immunization efforts.”

My first reaction would be to retort to Ji: You say that as though it were a bad thing.

It wasn’t long before the disturbance in the antivaccine crankosphere bubbled to the surface, with outraged and alarmed posts appearing on various antivaccine websites, including MotheringDotCom (MDC),, and Jon Rappaport’s blog, where Rappaport claims:

This means the attack is on. Gates intends to do a surveillance operation across the Internet and locate anti-vaccine advocates. His minions will then undertake a counter-insurgency campaign to neutralize them.

Again, Rappaport says this as though it would be a bad thing if that’s what the Gates Foundation were doing.

Oddly enough, it took several days for this meme to find its way to the ultimate wretched hive of scum and antivaccine quackery (the one that beats even the Huffington Post on that score), Age of Autism, which basically posted an excerpt from Ji’s post with a link to it. Be that as it may, the antivaccine crankosphere is now in full lather about this grant and other Gates Foundation initiatives in a way they haven’t been since they tried to claim that Bill Gates was in favor of a global eugenics program in which vaccines would be the means of reducing the global population. It’s such a brain dead take on the matter that it’s probably worth briefly explaining again, so that you don’t have to go and look it up again. Here’s what Gates said back in 2010:

The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.

Antivaccinationists have leapt on this statement as “evidence” that (1) Bill Gates supports eugenics and (2) that, by saying this, Bill Gates “admitted that vaccines are used for depopulation.” Of course, it’s obvious from the context that Bill Gates is pointing out a general observation that better health care, which includes reproductive services and vaccines, usually leads to populations leveling off. Think of it this way. If the world population is heading up towards 9 billion and we manage to lower that by 15%, that would mean that the world population would still rise to 7.65 billion, which is still nearly a billion more than 6.8 billion. In other words, all Gates was saying was that better health care (including mass vaccination programs) plus wider access to contraception could slow the rate of population increase while at the same time resulting in much healthier populations, not that it would “depopulate” the world. Such willful misinterpretation of Gates’ statement in order to support the existence of a “New World Order”-style conspiracy to slash the global population. At the extreme end, people like Mike Adams at links Bill Gates to what he calls the “great culling,” in which vaccines, genetically modified foods, pharmaceuticals, and other products of the pharmaceutical, food, and chemical industries to begin a global program of eugenics, just like Hitler, only not nearly as crude:

Today’s eugenicists are more subtle. They’ve learned, through experience, that openly gassing entire populations doesn’t win over the hearts and minds of the public. So they’ve developed covert methods of accomplishing the same thing. These coverts methods include convincing people to eat genetically modified foods — which promote infertility — to drink fluoride, take vaccines, use synthetic chemicals, increase abortions and pursue other actions that either kill people outright or drastically reduce rates of reproduction.

The idea behind these is that, first off, the culling of the human race can now be accomplished without all the horrifying images of Nazi Germany’s gas chambers. While the Jews in World War II had to be forcibly lined up and herded into railroad cars, today’s eugenics victims willfully line up at pharmacies to be injected with flu vaccines containing stealth cancer viruses that accomplish the same thing: Death.

Death by vaccines is just slower and more covert than death by Zyklon B.

Which brings us back to Ji’s article and Rappaport’s article, the latter of which warns:

Gates is obviously out to create an atmosphere and set a tone for legislation that would make vaccination mandatory everywhere, with no exemptions allowed. That’s what he’s shooting for. That’s his wet dream, the one that goes hand in glove with depopulation, his mountaintop desire.

Of course, what Rappaport means by “exemptions” is in reality non-medical exemptions. No one, not even Paul Offit (or yours truly, for that matter) advocates eliminating medical exemptions. Some children and adults can’t be immunized for various reasons. What Rappaport really means is “philosophical” exemptions, which are not based in religion and were so aptly described by Paul Offit as the “I do not want to get vaccines because I have read a lot of scary things about vaccines and I am afraid that they might hurt my child, and I am not so sure I believe in pharmaceutical companies or the medical establishment or the government, so I do not want my child to get them” vaccine exemptions. Or, in the case of Ji and Rappaport, the “I do not want to get vaccines because I am extremely suspicious of government and pharmaceutical companies, believe that ‘natural’ is always better, and think Bill Gates is leading a global eugenics program to ‘cull the herd'” exemption.

The idea that the Gates Foundation is somehow in league with a “New World Order” of global elites who, for reasons that are never really spelled out, want to drastically decrease the global population by whatever nefarious means they can think of underlies the paranoia behind the attack on Kalichman’s project and its funding by the Gates Foundation. It’s also a typical misunderstanding on the part of Ji and Rappaport frequently utilized by denialists of all stripes, be they vaccine denialists, evolution denialists, or anthropogenic global warming denialists, that calling out misinformation, lies, pseudoscience, and quackery is somehow “suppressing free speech,” as Rappaport describes here:

He intends to create his very own Surveillance State, in which the targets are all Internet reporters and groups that have dug up the real facts about vaccines. The facts the medical cartel wants to hide in their vaults: vaccine deaths, paralysis, maiming, brain damage, autism, immune dysfunction…

He wants to create a chilling effect, for those who are thinking about covering the vaccine issue honestly.

Um, no. That’s utterly ridiculous. As anyone who’s tried to control information and speech on the Internet knows, it’s nearly impossible to shut down speech on the Internet. Even totalitarian countries have a hard time doing it. Like life in Jurassic Park, in the Internet age information will not be contained. Information breaks free. It expands to new territories and crashes through barriers. Information finds a way.

Unfortunately, the same is true of misinformation. Certainly, antivaccine misinformation always seems to find a way.

What this project clearly aims to do is to monitor antivaccine websites for misinformation and to find better ways to counter it. This is a goal of which I approve heartily, given that I already do this in my own way on this blog. However, my invocation as my pseudonym of a completely connected computer that can extract information from any other computer anywhere in the galaxy notwithstanding, I’m just one person with a demanding day job. Even if I were able to devote all of my waking hours to combatting antivaccine propaganda, it would be the proverbial drop in the ocean. It would be reason, science, and medicine diluted homeopathically in an ocean of antivaccine pseudoscience. Compared to the sheer number and influence of antivaccine propagandists in the blogosphere, the relatively small number of us who devote our blogging time to critically examining antivaccine propaganda and pseudoscience are outmatched.

That’s why I find Seth Kalichman’s project interesting and would like to know more about it other than the imaginary version of it being touted by antivaccinationists. Kalichman, as you might remember, has been very active against another antiscience movement, namely HIV/AIDS denialists, a particularly pernicious variety of denialists who push the dangerous myth that HIV does not cause AIDS. He runs his own blog, Denying AIDS and Other Oddities, which unfortunately is not updated as much as one would wish. Again, I do not view it as a bad thing to monitor antivaccine websites and develop new ways to counter their misinformation, as Kalichman appears to propose to do. In fact, I find the wails and gnashing of teeth of the antivaccine crowd rather amusing, given that they seem to vastly overestimate what $100,000 can do in this respect, particularly when the grant applications are peer reviewed. They disingenuously imply that Gates himself is funneling his billions of dollars into the project to produce a global surveillance program that will stomp free speech flat, when what I see is a small pilot grant to try a new method of promoting good science on vaccines by the Internet.

Moving from Rappaport to Ji, just to conclude by emphasizing how much the sort of paranoid thinking (if you can call it that) about vaccines permeates the reaction to the Gates Foundation’s activities, I note that Ji is also unhappy about a lot of the other projects funded by the Gates Foundation’s Grand Challenges in Global Health initiative. For instance, here’s what Ji says about one initiative:

Synthetic Lymph Nodes: Steven Meshnick and Carla Hand of the University of North Carolina in the U.S. will develop a bio-compatible, biodegradable polymer device that can be placed under the skin to introduce vaccines and antigens to the immune system. The device will attract immune cells and trigger their proliferation as well as act as an adjuvant at the site of injection. If successful, the device could help boost immune response to new and existing vaccines. [see our article on transhumanistic technologies].

Yes, once again, Ji links to his old article as though developing synthetic lymph nodes that improve vaccine function is a bad thing. To him, it’s “unnatural” and “transhumanism” that somehow makes people less human by inducing an even more “artificial immunity” that vaccines do. The article to which he links also castigates the biotech industry for the “the increasingly God-like power” it is “assuming for itself.” Yes, indeed. Making better medical devices to make vaccines work better is too “God-like.” Because, apparently, God wants babies to die of vaccine-preventable diseases rather than to let humans use the intelligence that believers believe he gave them to try to prevent that.

Other technologies that the Gates Foundation is funding are equally benign (to individuals with a science-based understanding of medicine) but horrific to Ji. These include “Needle Free Vaccination Via Nanoparticle Aerosols”; “Plant-Produced Synthetic RNA Vaccines”; “Vaccine in a Salt Shaker” (whose goal is “to develop an inexpensive, safe, and effective oral vaccine against invasive Salmonella disease using gas-filled bacterial vesicles”); new methods of contraception; edible vaccines; a new circumcision tool (OK, I’m not so sure I’m big on this one); “Nanotechnology-Based Contraception”; and “Ultrasound as a Long-Term, Reversible Male Contraceptive.” With one exception, I again say to Ji: You say that as though these were bad things.

The bottom line is that antivaccine views often feed into a generalized world view of conspiracy theories in which shadowy global elites are trying to impose some sort of bizarre new order on the world for reasons that are unclear because…well, because they’re shadowy elites who aren’t like you and me, leading to calls for “the arrest & prosecution of Bill Gates for mass murder & genocide, and if convicted that he hang for his crimes.” It’s sheer lunacy at its most bizarre, but it’s very pervasive.

I do have to admit that one proposal by an antivaccinationist that did amuse the heck out of me appeared on AoA from a woman named Patricia:

Shouldn’t we lobby Donald Trump to take the opposite view and also fund another University to monitor the Internet and give out anti vaccine information? Isn’t that playing with a level field? Isn’t that encouraging debate rather than discouragig it?

Donald Trump versus Bill Gates in a global smackdown over vaccines? I know where I’d lay my money, and, no, it’s not on the guy with the bizarre hair.

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134 replies on “They say that about the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation as though it were a bad thing”

Excellent video, Chris.

Here’s the 2012 Bill and Melinda Gates Annual Letter, which describes how they are funding activities in agriculture research, family planning, disease reduction including tuberculosis, malaria and AIDS…in addition to vaccination programs.

I guess the collective mindsets of these anti-science, anti-vaccine bloggers, and their fanatic followers actually believe, that all these initiatives are methods of depopulating the world.

@Chris – exactly. Once women realise they can actually raise a child up into an independent youth, they don’t need to have seven or eight to gain one or two helping hands on their land, and to care for them in old age. Also, helping them to space. out pregnancies helps their health, and the health of their babies.

Who wouldn’t want that? A developing world that can develop like we did. Reducing maternal and infant mortality will go a long way toward that goal.

Bill Gates could have sat on his billions, like his late fruit-themed rival, but he’s using his money to enrich humanity. IMHO he should practically be worshipped for what he’s doing.

And yes, I have used Vista 😉


My Father’s mother was the youngest of 15 (she lived to a ripe old age of 95), where 7 of them (iirc) survived to adulthood. My Mother’s mother was the oldest of 11, where all survived to adulthood (makes for some really fun family reunions).

None of the subsequent generation of kids had more than 3 children – some never had kids.

I’m starting to lose track of the various hive classifications. So AoA is the ultimate hive of scum and antivaccination quackery.
Huff Po was THE hive of scum and quackery. What were the others?

I sometimes come here and feel like the redoubtable Captain Renault. I’m Shocked, Shocked, do you hear, to find Antivax nuttery going on on the Internet.
So, for those keeping score: Vaccines will :
kill your mind.
kill your child’s minds.
make you have the disease they’re supposed to prevent.
make you have a disease worse than the one they’re supposed to prevent.
ruin your weight loss program.
and cause your Essence to be Impure.
(h/t to Gen. Jack D. Ripper)
Oh, and they make pharma cos rich, whereas selling supplies to care for all those sick people would put said cos in the poorhouse.
Did I get them all ? probably not.

It’s not surprising that anti-vaxers are coming out in favor of “natural” overpopulation by way of ranting about “depopulation.”

To understand this and other oddities of irrationalists’ reproductive beliefs and policies, keyword search “K-selection” and “R-selection,” the two primary reproductive strategies of animals in general. There you’ll find the proverbial “keys to the kingdom” that explain much about the constellations of beliefs around reproduction and social investment in offspring.

In brief:

R-selection: Reproductive strategy that involves producing very many offspring and investing little effort in raising each one. Most die off but enough survive to propagate the species. Example: seahorses. Examples in social policy: anti-abortion, anti-contraception, anti-vaccination, and also funding cuts for public education.

K-selection: Reproductive strategy that involves producing relatively few offspring and investing much effort in raising each one. Fewer births but fewer deaths ensure propagation of the species. Example: higher primates. Examples in social policy: pro-choice, family planning, free access to contraceptives, universal vaccination, and also higher funding levels for public education.

Interestingly, these two strategies have their parallels in military policy as well!

R-selection leads to this: throw large numbers of soldiers into war zones, equip them minimally for the task, and assume they are replaceable via high rates of reproduction. Example: Bush’s war in Iraq, where American soldiers were forced to improvise armor out of scrap metal for their combat vehicles.

K-selection leads to this: use minimal numbers of ground combat forces, equip them with all necessary tools for the job, assume that they are not replaceable. Example: Obama’s reliance on the SEALs and on closely-targeted drone warfare.

There are probably other policy areas aside from medical, educational, and military, that are affected by these attitudes toward reproduction and “quality vs. quantity.” And it’s also highly likely that each individual’s bias toward K- or R-selection is based in deep-seated instincts that are reinforced through emotions. The question for ascertaining political strategies for dealing with this is, to what extent can the instincts of those who are biased toward R-selection, be modified by social conditions such as their own upbringing, education, and so on?

I’m very glad to see Gates and Kalichman joining forces. Reducing poverty, sickness and child mortality and increasing literacy always reduce population growth, and I support any efforts in that direction.

Speaking of transhumanism, while watching the Paralympics (which has barely been shown in the US I am told, which is a shame) I have been musing on the way things are headed. It is only a matter of time before prostheses are superior to the body parts they replace, and in some areas it is perhaps already the case. We may be the last generation who regard being able-bodied as an advantage. Eventually, should the human race survive, we will design an artificial immune system that works better than our natural one; vaccination and artificial lymph nodes are our first stumbling baby-steps in that direction.

I can understand some people being afraid of the future in that regard, but every age has it’s sabot throwers and Luddites. In our age they include the alties and antivaccinationists.

“a new circumcision tool (OK, I’m not so sure I’m big on this one)”

Much as I oppose infant circumcision myself – As long as people are going to do it, at least letting them do it safely would be an improvement.

It’s simple. Bill Gates is educated and understands the demographic transition. These quacks do not.

Where would Trump get the $$$ to fund university projects? He doesn’t have that much. He’s a businessman who operates through leveraged borrowing, not via great wealth.

Kreb, With regards to this “We may be the last generation who regard being able-bodied as an advantage”. You underestimate the power of bigotry.

I should have given several billion dollars to Gates in 1980 so he could get to work on this stuff without going through that Windows mess. But if I am going to second-guess Myself, I could say that I wouldn’t have created HIV and malaria to begin with if I hadn’t lost that bet with Lucifer. What a tricky little devil he is!

shadowy global elites are trying to impose some sort of bizarre new order on the world for reasons that are unclear because…well, because they’re shadowy elites who aren’t like you and me

Premise 1: Big PharmaTM is trying to become God-like.
Premise 2: God works in mysterious ways.
Conclusion: Big PharmaTM works in mysterious ways.


I just love the irony. If Bill Gates really wanted a eugenic culling of the population, he would not only refrain from fighting the antivaxers, he would actively fund them, thereby removing people without natural immunity and people stupid, fearful, or ignorant enough to promote or follow the antivax line from the population. But no, he has to have compassion for them and their children by actively fighting to prevent needless deaths.

I wonder how this New World Order can be competent enough to practice worldwide eugenics but not so competent as to silence a handful of nuts. How hard would it be really? Snatch them from their homes in the middle of the night and throw them over the nearest bridge. Verdict from a cooperative coroner – suicide. Not hard for the New World Order. The crazy people’s own existence is evidence that the conspiracy does not exist or is so utterly ineffectual to begin with. A rational person might wonder if the nut merely concocted this elaborate fantasy to validate their own paranoid world view.

I always thought you needed three generations of skulls and bones membership to ascent to the high council of the NWO. How would a Harvard drop-out even get his foot in the door? These guys can’t even get their conspiracy theories straight; pretty much like their understanding of science.


You underestimate the power of bigotry.

Perhaps, but watching the Paralympics, and interviews with the athletes I felt I was glimpsing the future. Some of the amputees have different high-tech prosthetics for different purposes, whereas I have to multitask with the ones I have. It’s not a huge jump to some of the scenarios we are familiar with in science fiction, in which cyborg humans are superior to purely wetware humans in every way. It’s hard to be bigoted against someone who is stronger than you, faster than you, can see better than you, can resist disease better than you etc.etc..


I wonder how this New World Order can be competent enough to practice worldwide eugenics but not so competent as to silence a handful of nuts.

Those nuts are all protected with Holy Handgrenades and such-like that interfere with the NWO’s mind control technology, curse them.

Anti-vaxxers should be having a field day with Seth because he has had a long history fighting pseudo-science:

he has been perpetually accused of acquiring gigantic sums of money from Big Pharma ( which after all, *created* hiv/aids to market new drugs). The usual figure quoted is $17 million USD;

he has interesting enemies, especially an ex-cop who has created OMSJ ( and has probably shown up @ RI) and others who run denialist “think” tanks and conferences;

he has colleagues, like Nicoli Natrass, whose research about denialists’ beliefs and actions, complements his own;

And last and certainly not least, he has very interesting supporters and friends: Jake should have an easy time connecting the dots – or the SB realists, in this case- Seth knows a few people who frequent Orac’s cyber-stomping grounds in various modes.
Yes, we’re all in this together, kids. It’s one massive matrix- and we even understand its algebra!

And something that folks @ AoA will really go insane over:
Seth got to know major denialists ‘up close’ by using a pseudo-nym ( Heaven protect us!), ” Joe Newton”, and hanging out with them. Thus, he can write about Duesberg and others from that perspective as a clinical psychologist.

It should be noted that Seth tolerates a huge amount of personal and professional abuse at his blog- including ((shudder)) anti-Semitism. He has been known to respond sarcastically and hilariously.

Isn’t today the last day on which a certain ex-doctor can file an appeal to his dismissed vexatious lawsuit?

I think science fiction also gives us a window into the social fear those types of advantages give. The Island of Dr. Moreau, I, Robot, heck the X-Men. In modern times, think of GMO foods, humans are nasty to that which is different.



humans are nasty to that which is different

The day is coming when that which is different can kick the bigots’ asses 😉

@ Krebiozen: We have our own special Special Olympian in the United States.

Perhaps this is the perfect spot now, to brag about him:,,20624599,00.html

“No stranger to major international tournaments, Nick Springer is among the Americans competing. The leader of the U.S. Wheelchair Rugby Team (and a Hall of Famer in the sport), the 27-year-old is going for his ninth consecutive gold medal after already claiming a Paralympic, two World Cup, two Western Hemisphere and three Canada Cup trophies.

‘Rugby Player’ Is ‘My Identity’

After contracting the bacterial infection meningococcal meningitis as a 14-year-old at summer camp in 1999, Nick awoke from a medically induced coma to find that both his arms and legs had been amputated. He lost his legs from the knees, down, and his arms at mid-forearm.

With determination, a sense of humor, and a loving family, he moved his life forward, becoming the top defender in his sport, as a tribute in September’s Vanity Fair testifies.

“The thing I realized,” Springer told a group of students the same age he was when his life changed forever, “is that, unfortunately, bad things do happen, and you just have to look past it and laugh and say, ‘You know what? It’s funny. I had no control over what happened. I had no control over losing my limbs. But I can control what I do afterwards.’ “

I rolled my eyes when “transhumanist” was used negatively. What’s wrong with fixing and improving our flawed frames? We’ve got artificial hip joints, pacemakers, and organ transplants. I’ve got metal rods in my back to prevent me from becoming a hunchback. I forgot I had them until I thought of the topic a bit more. What horrors have these advances wrought? None that I can think of.

I find it funny (sad and stupid, too) that these people, who speak of eugenics with horror, seem to be terribly concerned about maintaining the alleged purity of the human race. These are the sorts of people I expect to foster bigotry and oppression against cyborgs and AIs when we get around to making them.

That’s an amazing tale; to lose all your limbs, especially at that age, must surely make or break you as a person. The Paralympics is filled with similar stories and has exceeded my expectations (which were high anyway) in every way. I am both awed and humbled.

It’s worth noting here that meningococcal meningitis which claimed Nick Springer’s limbs is, of course, a vaccine-preventable disease.

@ G2G

“K-selection” and “R-selection”

Ah, that’s interesting. It’s what I call quantity vs quality approaches.
I’m not sure all anti-vaxers consciously adhere to a quantity / K-selection approach. Similarly to libertarians, a number of them just assume that quality is achievable without the need of investing much – i.e. no need for government or vaccines, things will just go well naturally.

I wonder how this New World Order can be competent enough to practice worldwide eugenics but not so competent as to silence a handful of nuts.

You and me both. The continued existence of tinfoil-hatter extraordinaire Alex Jones is proof enough for me – although They might just be letting him live because he throws smug skeptics like us off the scent.

I have observed previously that the NWO isn’t especially competent at the eugenics thing either, since the world’s population continues to grow ( IIRC it reached 7 billion sometime within the last year?) And really, there are far easier ways of wiping out large numbers of people if one is so inclined. It’s also never been established why exactly They want to depopulate the earth – the usual “reason” given is spit-flecked ravings about enslaving the survivors, but you’d think they’d want a bigger rather than smaller pool of specimens to draw from. But anyway, since I am unlikely to survive the great cull if and when it ever happens, I go get my shots when I’m ordered like a good little sheeple.

Isn’t today the last day on which a certain ex-doctor can file an appeal to his dismissed vexatious lawsuit?

Barring the maneuver of counting on later being allowed a 15-day extension, which really requires only a tattered slip of plausibility, yes.

(I just called the district clerk’s office; there has been no filing, and they’re pretty sure the deadline is midnight.)

Suspicion/prediction: Wakefield will file an appeal tomorrow (or even later than that). Then when it’s turned down due to the deadline having expired, this will be trumpeted as having been “denied the chance to make his case on a technicality.” By a judge who’s undoubtedly in the pocket of Big Pharma, according to a standard Crosby six-degrees-of-separation game.

I remember using aerosol ‘syringes’ for a couple of years in the mid ’80s.

We stopped using them because;
A. They were a pain in the arse to load and cock (the had an arm on the side which had to be pulled through 180 degrees and was very stiff).

B. Paranoia about the transmission of the recently discovered HIV.

They did actually bear a passing resemblance to the devices used in Star Trek.

Anyone else use them?

I find such *interesting* articles when I go slumming at AoA. I just love how this crowd supports doctors who actually injure autistic kids…and fund their legal defense funds:

“The father of a 7-year-old boy has filed suit against two self-styled “autism specialists,” their clinics, and a laboratory that tests urine specimens for “toxic metals.” The complaint (shown below) states:

Defendants Anjum Usman, MD; True Health Medical Center; Dan Rossignol, MD; Creation’s Own, and Doctor’s Data Laboratory conspired to induce patients to undergo unwarranted chelation therapy.

The scheme in this case centered around Usman’s use of a “provoked” urine toxic metals test to falsely assert that the boy had accumulated dangerous levels of mercury and several other metals. Usman made this initial assessment when he was only two years old even though he had had no significant exposure to toxic metals.

Chelation therapy was administered with suppositories when the boy was four and included 41 intravenous sessions over an 18-month period, beginning when he was five.

The inappropriate treatments also included dietary supplements, hyperbaric oxygen, hormones, and other drugs that were unnecessary, unapproved, and/or potentially dangerous.

Whereas Usman examined and treated the boy at her office, Rossignol, without ever examining him, based his recommendations on telephone conversations with the mother over a 25-month period.”

Suspicion/prediction: Wakefield will file an appeal tomorrow (or even later than that).

I’m quite curious what the plan is. It appears that, had they tiimely filed a request for findings of fact and conclusions of law (at the 20 day mark; this presumes that the July appearance was an “evidentiary hearing”), they could have extended the clock. Even worse, by failing to do this, it appears that they have ceded quite a bit of ground to the putative appellees (see Royalty v. Nicholson, 411 S.W.2d 565 [1967]), to put it mildly. Not that any of this would have really helped.

I find such *interesting* articles when I go slumming at AoA.

Isn’t that Usman bit a rerun? (I also noted that their “In the News” sidebar is sporting an article from June 13. I suppose nobody would have accused them of being masters of understatement in the first place.)

(The comments on the “Republican Party Outrage,” item, which have been redacted to delete one asserting that “Obamacare” makes vaccines mandatory, are hilarious, particularly one “Raymond Gallup,” who predicts a doubling of unemployment if Obama is reelected thanks to “small business” moving to “places like Costa Rica, etc.”)

I remember using aerosol ‘syringes’ for a couple of years in the mid ’80s.

I was wondering about them the other day, having vaguely recalled a time in the 70s when they were being promoted as the Great Step Forward in vaccination technology.

Shouldn’t we lobby Donald Trump to take the opposite view and also fund another University to monitor the Internet and give out anti vaccine information? Isn’t that playing with a level field? Isn’t that encouraging debate rather than discouragig it?

Great sense of entitlement there.

“Dear Mr Trump. Bill Gates (of whom you may have heard) decided to donate vast sums of money to philanthropic purposes, spent a lot of time researching the avenues that provide the greatest impact from his donations, and decided to fund vaccination programs and vaccination research.
That is why you should give me lots of money.”

@ Peebs: I don’t recall using “aerosol” syringes, but I recall drawing up vaccines from multi-dose vials (yipes!), which were loaded with TOXIC MERCURY!!!!

At the time when Todd W. was looking for sponsors for his “Zombie Run”, I *hesitated*, then sponsored him, so that he could raise funds for the development of a laser adjuvant for vaccines. I always *wondered* if Todd was part of the *Big Pharma* conspiracy. 🙂

Regarding Wakefield’s appeal, narad wrote: “(I just called the district clerk’s office; there has been no filing, and they’re pretty sure the deadline is midnight.)

In a case strikingly like Wakefield’s complaint, an appellate court considered the right of a Texas resident to sue an out-of-state publisher for reporting on events that occurred outside of Texas and before the plaintiff moved to Texas. Rejecting the plaintiff’s attempt to base jurisdiction on his recent connection to Texas and the harm he allegedly experienced in Texas, the three-judge panel of the Fifth Circuit affirmed the lower court’s decision that jurisdiction did not exist: “The article . . . contains no reference to Texas, nor does it refer to the Texas activities of [the plaintiff], and it was not directed at Texas readers as distinguished from readers in other states.” [USDC No. 2:95-CV-163] Of course, it should be obvious to those at AoA that the trial judge and the three judges who reviewed the appeal were all in the pocket of Big Pharma–isn’t everyone?

“Aerosol syringes”.
I was a University student in Japan in the early 1970s, and there was mass vaccination against Japanese encephalitis using a jet injector (“vaccine gun”). The Wikipedia article on the jet injector says that US Department of Defense – a former major user for vaccination of servicemen – stopped using them in 1997 and WHO states that jet injectors “are no longer recommended due to risks of disease transmission”.

Do you think that soon after people become fabulously wealthy that they are visited in the night by ex-special ops troops who abduct them to a secret underground bunker where all the secrets of the Illuminateruses and the reptilizardoidians are revealed and they are inducted into the Jewish-Jesuit-Freemason-Muslim Brotherhood conspiracy and trained in the use of nanothermite?

The Wikipedia article on the jet injector says that US Department of Defense – a former major user for vaccination of servicemen – stopped using them in 1997 and WHO states that jet injectors “are no longer recommended due to risks of disease transmission

Not to mention they hurt like hell. You haven’t lived until you’ve had a hungover Navy corpsman administering your shots on the day after payday….

Rejecting the plaintiff’s attempt to base jurisdiction on his recent connection to Texas and the harm he allegedly experienced in Texas, the three-judge panel of the Fifth Circuit affirmed the lower court’s decision that jurisdiction did not exist

Yah, this aspect of Revell was actually dealt with preemptively in the brief in support of special appearances.

@ Old Rockin’ Dave:

You are partially correct:
you only are instructed in the Secrets after passing a series of trials in which-
you are buried alive in the dead of night- dark of the moon- in a casket ( 3 hours);
you must survive a fiery chambre in which you must walk over smouldering coals ( 100 m) with bare feet;
you must have ritualised sexual relations with a masked stranger in full view of the Committee ( 45 minutes);
you are held underwater for a long time ( ?) before you are allowed to be REBORN into the light with a new secret name,
and finally, you must sign an agreement ( in your own blood- drawn from an incision in your left ring finger- *in mirror script*) pledging absolute fealty to the Illuminati et al unto death.

I read that somewhere.


Is the clock ticking towards midnight for Wakefield’s appeal, or does he in fact still have a couple of weeks to file in his new home?

Is the clock ticking towards midnight for Wakefield’s appeal, or does he in fact still have a couple of weeks to file in his new home?

From what I’ve read of Texas appellate practice notes, it’s possible to get away with a late filing up to 15 days after the deadline, but the deadline is today.

^ “A reasonable explanation is ‘any plausible statement of circumstances indicating that failure to file within the [specified] period was not deliberate or intentional, but was the result of inadvertence, mistake or mischance.’”

@Denice Walter:
Are you sure? What you describe sounds to me like the process for getting your voter registration in a red state.

Old “Rockin Dave:

We really shouldn’t be bringing up politics on this blog.

Meanwhile, did you catch the Clint Eastwood Show in Tampa? 🙂

Aerosol syringes: I recall a news item about something called “hypospray” in the 1960s, that looked like a cylinder, I would estimate about 2″ diameter x 8″ length. Is that the device y’all are talking about? When I was a little kid it sounded like a good thing: no more needles, yaay! Years later, needles don’t particularly scare me any more.

But here’s a question: for kids and others who are scared of needles, why not just dab the area with some topical anaesthetic first?

Heliantus, you got ’em reversed: it’s R = quantity, K = quality. If you want a quick mnemonic, think “R = Reckless, K = Kareful.” Yeah the mis-spelling is icky, but at least it works as a reminder.

@ Old Rockin’ Dave:

Perhaps. The voter rules apparently also include jumping through flaming hoops over basins of flammable liquids.

And… Wakefield is now 03-12-00576-CV.

I hope that Wakefield prevails, so that he can move on to the next step–the anti-SLAPP hearing.


Shills and Minions,

Astra and I are our way back from Glaxxoik Vohk (Burning Lizard) in the Gerr L’aaq system and while we are dirty, hung-over and exhausted, I wanted to comment on the progress being made by the Information Overlord Gates and potential opposition from that horrible, self-absorbed, floss-topped ewok.

I think that we should work with other species when it’s to our advantage, and since the hive-mind of the Silicate Demipentium has always supported the Glaxxon Corpus in our contretemps with the Kthraaxx and Veesh/Rectorian Union I think we should return the favor, especially since they’ll be using our special NanoSoph™ and Monkey-B-Good™ vaccine adjuvants (and they worry about aluminum).

As for the apparent incompetence of our world dominating conspiracy, our policy of making the rebels look like idiots will continue as per GPhCOM PL 337.3 “Hide in Plain Sight.”

In any case, I’ve got dust under my scales, I’m still seeing tracers and in no condition to produce any grand edicts or pronouncements. Once I am past the effects of our annual Bacchanal, I shall chime in with more lucidity.

I do hope Miss Flinders wasn’t too strict with the Shills and Minions in my absence, power does tend to go to her head.

Lord Draconis Zeneca VH7iHL
Foreward Mavoon of the Great Fleet, Pharmaca Magna of Terra, Grand Subjugator of Sector VII, Fire Spinnin’ Fool

Glaxxon PharmaCOM
Realspace Transit Message


@Peebs: I think the vet used something like that on my cat a few years ago for one of her vaccines. The vet said “it will make a loud noise, so I start by knocking on the table.” Yeah… loud was an understatement. Maybe it also used gold particles to ‘spread out’ the injection over a larger area? Dunno, the vets haven’t used it again.

Actually the Gates Foundation is a very bad thing. They push these vaccines on people and at the same time these RICH creeps are wanting to spray sulfur nanoparticles into the atmosphere to “combat global warming”.

Let’s face it the only reason why left wingers are not screaming about Bill Gates and his billions of dollars not being consfiscated in higher taxes is becuase he is a Democrat. If he were a conservative Republican everyone on this sight would be screaming for the government to confiscate his wealth. I guess our elected leaders only want to tax rich Republicans. We all know poor democrats are. You know like George Soros, Ted Turner, Bill gates, etc. Let’s not raise their taxes, only the rich Republicans’ taxes.

What a waste of space you people are. Everytime you breath a frog farts somewhere in the rainforest. Stop taking up space and do something uselful once in a while.

Your Lordship:

In your absence, we have attracted some new recruits. I have submitted their applications in quadruplicate for the *shills and minions* career path program.

The have been some rumblings here among the RI Regulars whose *Big Pharma* remunerations have not been transferred yet to their off-shore accounts. My Proof Krugerrands are “in the mail”, according to Miss Flinders.

Perhaps Miss Flinders would consider a computer spread sheet instead of her ledger, to facilitate timely payments?


Honored Cadre Leader, Class VII lilady

Excellent news on the recruitment front. I count on all of you to inform me of any irregularities in the smooth subjugation of your planet. If only Miss Flinders would pry herself away from her tactical training exercises long enough to pay attention to the finances. When asked about the late payments she made that laugh sound you all do and said “OMG Lord D, I’m like totally not a bean counter, ‘kay? Gotta get back to the holotrainer, I got planets to toast, peaceout!” And I thought that Glaxxon youth were intransigent. But she is indispensible to me and utterly treacherous.

I only hope that our eldest, Loraza and Vicodia will pick up some pointers from her. One can only do so much to give a hatchline a leg up. Perhaps one of the new recruits is better with disbursement. Any suggestions would be welcome. It would be sad to lose Miss Flinders, but I know I can’t keep her here when she’d much rather be leading battle groups out on the X-axis frontier. As the hatchlings say, “bummer.”

But enough of that
Lets get back to work!

Lord Draconis Zeneca VH7iHL
Foreward Mavoon of the Great Fleet, Pharmaca Magna of Terra, Dad of the Year

Terrabase DIA

————————— MESSAGE ENDS

And… Wakefield is now 03-12-00576-CV.

Good grief. I can’t get my mind around how this could be helping him. Is there really that much mileage out of martyrdom?

My dearest Lord Draconis,

We here at Illuminata Ltd are very pleased to announce that Mr Gates will be giving us money for our services. Not what you think though.

At any rate, much unruliness has been occuring lately in the so-called Lone Star State by a few bold mavericks. why not send Cindy there?

The boys say hello. Another day, another dollar; come around with a pound; once again, bring a yen.

Sincerely yours,
DW, CEO, CFO, Illuminata Ltd
other various titles, too many to type

Lilady, I liked Clint a whole lot better when his longest speech consisted of a squint, three words bitten off, and a gunshot for punctuation.

Old Rockin’ Dave: (Only as a neutral party), I watched Bill Clinton’s nominating speech. He too, went off script and he “made my day”.

The only reference I can find to a supposed scheme to employ sulfur nanoparticles in the air to combat global warming comes from Natural News, the same source that claimed ‘skeptics believe the body has no capacity to heal itself’ and ‘medicine uses the caduceus as a symbol because it’s actually a symbol of poison and evil and mainstream physicians are secretly death worshippers.’

Sadly, I don’t think Melinda is a Poe; she just can’t detect bullshit when it’s bullshit that fits her prejudices.

(Smart enough now, to only link to websites)

Old Rockin’ Dave: How about Rosalind Carter, and her activities to get kids immunized? She was very pro-active when she was First Lady on behalf of individuals with developmental disabilities/mental and emotional disorders. I met her at a conference and she is a gracious, caring person:

BTW, I have MSNBC TV on, and Rick Santelli (famous for his rant about citizens forming a “tea party”), is ranting again about job creation/growth and the Federal deficit. Good news, all the indices are way up.

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