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Subjecting children to enema “detoxification”

Even though I’ve been at this skeptical blogging thing, particularly about “alternative” medicine, so long (eight years now) that I think I’ve seen it all, that nothing the quacks do can shock me any more. It’s a foolish hubris, I admit, but, I hope, an understandable one after over eight years of blogging multiple times a week about science, skepticism, and quackery that can and has made my head spin. It is true that encountering something that gets my attention and truly knocks me on my posterior is getting rarer and rarer. It’s not so rare that it doesn’t still happen every now and then: Giving bleach enemas to autistic children, for instance.

This one isn’t quite as bad as that, but what makes it disturbing is that there is a video to go with it, which can be found in the form of a video called Bear Enema. No, it’s not a real bear enema. Rather, it’s what the video represents, which is a young child pretending to give her toy bears enemas:

The significance of this becomes clear when you read the post that links to and embeds the video, entitled Heal Your Child Instantly! Basically, it is a rant (no, that’s not my characterization but the characterization of the person authoring the rant):

Later this week I intend to address the information shared here in a video. Surely, I will be ranting in this upcoming video, because I am so tired of people stuck in the “system”, doing everything that they are told by “authority” figures such as their doctors and family members, all out of fear and weakness.

The information that I am going to share today with you in this article below is so basic and obvious to me and I feel extremely sad that the majority of the people will likely just brush this info off. I’m hoping that the many testimonials further below show you the truth behind this legitimate info. I feel very sorry for anyone who doesn’t grasp this concept today, as your childrens’ health is on the line here…

Ah, yes. You know you’re likely to be in for some serious quackery when the quack rants about how misunderstood his quackery is and then says he’s going to use anecdotal evidence to prove his detractors wrong. If you can detect a bit of the “They thought me mad, but I’ll show them all!” vibe in the rant, so much the better, and that’s the vibe I get from Matt Monarch’s rant here. We’ve met Monarch before, by the way, in a particularly hilarious way. Basically, a while back there was a quack war between Mike Adams and Matt Monarch, and apparently Adams’ quack-fu was stronger. In any case, Monarch runs a website he calls The Raw Food World because, well, he’s a raw food vegan who appears to think that cooking food kills it and poisons you, while eating only raw vegetables, fruit, grain, and plant matter is the secret to health. Indeed, Monarch, far from being creeped out by this video, which is the reaction that most supporters of science-based medicine will have when viewing it, praises it to high heaven.

Now, advocating a vegan diet is not quackery per se. While it is true that I’ve occasionally made fun of various vegans, it’s not because I think being a vegan is quackery. It is, however, more of a religion or ideology than it is based in science, because there’s no real evidence that a raw vegan diet is any better for you than a vegetarian diet or a pescetarian diet. Being a raw vegan (or just a vegan) is almost always a choice based far more in a personal ideology or morality than it is in medicine or science, and it is possible to be healthy on a vegan diet. It is not a choice I would (or think I could) make. Even if I wanted to, I like meat and fish too much. Even if I could give up meat and fish, I like cheese and eggs too much to give them up. However, there is no doubt that veganism is associated with a faction that views it as the be-all and end-all of health and overlay it with vitalism, in which even cooked vegetables are no good for you because they are “dead,” their “vital force” and nutrients sucked out of them by the cooking process. I’m sorry to have to say that, because I know there are vegans out there who are rational and make the choice to be vegan for what they think are very good reasons, but there are a lot of woo-filled vegans out there.

Vegans like Matt Monarch.

Matt, you see, also believes in the concept that nearly all disease is caused by toxins, in particular “autointoxication,” in which allegedly accumulated fecal matter piled up in your colon leaks its “toxins” into your bloodstream and makes you sick. Indeed, part of the “autointoxication” concept is that you—yes, you!—have pounds of undigested matter in your colon making you sick by leeching its toxins into your bloodstream. As any general surgeon (which I used to be before I sub-specialized in breast cancer) can tell you, it’s utter nonsense. If you have so much fecal matter in your colon that it’s making you sick, you will not be chronically sick. You will be septic and possibly at death’s door. In the world of someone like Matt Monarch, though, accumulated fecal matter is spreading its “toxins” and need to be purged. Worse, he’s willing to subject children to such quackery, which is what makes the video attached to his post so creepy. It portrays this young child above giving her Teddy bears enemas, shooting “water in the butt,” and then telling her bears to “push, bear, push.” This leaves little doubt that this child has either seen people getting enemas or has received them herself. My guess is both, regardless of whether Matt claims that he and his wife have only given their daughter an enema once:

I don’t believe it for a minute.

Be that as it may, Matt can’t resist discussing the wonderful anecdotes that to him prove that “detoxification” through enemas is the cure for everything that ails you:

Many months ago one of my neighbors who I was visiting was asking me if I had any Echinacea, Colloidal Silver or Ginseng. When I heard this, I knew something was going on. I asked why he wanted these things, and he told me that their child was bed-ridden. This little boy was extremely sick with a massive headache and couldn’t move. My inner core knew that the supplements they were asking for would do nothing in this case. All sickness due to purging toxicity is the same! It’s the body trying to purge out an overload of toxins that have build up. Taking these kinds of products is not going to help the body massively purge in the most beneficial way. This concept is being suppressed to dum*b-down the human popluation while taking all of their money in the hospitals at the same time.

Gently, I told these friends that I did have a few of the products they were looking for, yet my feeling was that they would get far better results from giving their child an enema instead. I even told them that the results might be instantaneous. This dear husband and wife looked at each other with their eyebrows scrunched up, smiling, stating that their child doesn’t like to do that sort of thing. I just shrugged my shoulders and let it be. I then started talking to the husband about other things for around 20 minutes. Soon enough, the wife and her little son came walking outside. The boy was on his feet, feeling completely better, as if nothing had happened. We both looked at them in surprise and the mom told us that she had just given him an enema, with amazing results!

Instantaneous results!

I bet. I’m not sure, however, that the “instant results” are what Monarch seems to think they are. He’s also pretty challenged when it comes to understanding some basic human physiology. In actuality, the body, thanks to the liver, colon, and kidneys, has a very effective detoxification system. It takes a lot to overwhelm it. It’s not a wimpy little bunch filters that are so easily overwhelmed that you’ll become chronically ill if you don’t shoot water up your butt periodically to wash the poop out. To him, the body is always naturally “purging” but those evil “allopathic doctors” and pharmaceutical companies are pumping you full of drugs that to him “suppress” the body’s ability to “detoxify itself.”

It’s utter nonsense, of course.

What follows is a series of anecdotes, in which Matt seems to think that the cure for everything is is enemas. Got a headache? Give yourself an enema! Got a belly ache? Give yourself an enema! Got a kidneys stone? Enema! To Monarch, enemas fix everything:

In conclusion, this pattern for relieving disease via cleansing the colon is real. Next time you or a loved one is sick, I recommend getting a series of colonics or trying multiple enemas. For children it can actually be easier, as they are newer to this existance and usually less toxic than adults. Children have built up fewer toxins within their bodies, whereas over the years we have usually been repeteadly getting sick and taking drugs, which suppresses these toxins from being able to purge out of our bodies. Therefore, when adults embar*k on this type of healing j0urney, we’ve usually got a lot more detoxification to do. I hope that more people become willing to help children relieve illness via this simple method, rather than encouraging them to fill their bodies up with more and more toxicity.

And, of course, you have to supplement the enemas with raw vegetable juice and molasses. Even more typically, if you don’t get better, then it’s your fault. Monarch even says that if you are “truly doing all three of these things consistently for a good amount of time,” you have the potential to see practically anything heal. If it doesn’t work after truly doing this for a good amount of time, then my best guess would be it’s a spiritual phenomena that you have to figure out.”

In other words, you don’t believe hard enough.

I’ve never been able to understand this fascination among some parts of the alt-med set with raw “living food.” Quite frankly, whenever I hear “raw food” from these people, I can’t help but think of Gollum in the Lord of the Rings movies, “Give it to us raw and wriggling,” except that vegetables don’t wriggle. That’s the funny part.

Advocating unnecessarily giving enemas to children at the slightest sign of illness to children is not funny at all.

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139 replies on “Subjecting children to enema “detoxification””

Considering that some plants we commonly eat are poisonous until we cook them, I would be careful about what to eat raw.
Chick peas come to mind.

What is it with quacks and their fixation on enemas?
It feels like every other scam modality features some kine of enema.

I think the crank obsession with enemas is a matter of projection. They’re full of dung, so they assume everyone else is.

You make a very spirited argument here and I commend you on your public efforts to stem the tide of ignorance (to rational thought and science). I’ve been a staunch critic of quackery since 1994 when I spoke to Dr. Fred Stare (deceased now), founder of Harvard’s School of Public Health. He publicly denounced all kinds of hokey nutrition nonsense and, so moved by his efforts, I asked him how I could get further involved in the cause. He put me in touch with National Council Against Health Fraud (Victor Herbert and Stephen Barrett now of Quackwatch fame). I did lectures all over Southern California at universities, conferences, etc in defense of responsible health messages. This post illustrates how people are so willing to be mislead, if not dying to be mislead. Sadly we both know that when you try to offer a voice of reason, they go into defense/attack mode. I’ve recently taken some potshots at the media in light of all this crap about “clinically proven” which, in reality means pretty much nothing. Couple articles here:

http://www.drbillofhealth.com/health-q-a/what-does-clinically-proven-mean-in-advertising/

and
Overhyped media health messages.
http://www.drbillofhealth.com/health-watchdog/overhyped-media-health-messages-read-between-lines/

Keep up the great work, Orac. I particularly loved your Mercola piece! Brilliant!!

All those enemas and his head is still stuck up his ass.

48 years ago I was in the hospital for nephritis and a nurse had to give me an enema (standard back in the dark ages). That I can still remember it all these years later indicates how traumatic it was. Reminds me too of scenes from the “Road to Wellville”.

The (deseased) anti-vaccine Quack Anita Petek-Dimmer wrote in her book about rabies:
Tratment :

You can treat a rabies infection with homeopathic remedies, but don´t forget enemas and footbaths

source: A Petek-Dimmer Rund ums Impfen AEGIS Verlag 2004

and for the vegan-quacks: Veganic nutrition is possible.
But breastfeeding vegan mothers are dangerous for their kids, because these are at risk of severe Vit B12 deficiency resulting in irreversible damage of the cerebellum. MR imaging from those kids looks desastrous.

Quacks can be dangerous for their kids.

@Ruth: enemas were fairly common in my house growing up for “constipation” (though generally my parents preferred just to do some stimulation with a carved bar of Ivory soap). And often used for fevers when we were young to lower the core temperature. To give my parents credit, though, once they found antipyretics were just as effective and less traumatic (and less work for them to administer!) they stopped.

The enema or colon cleanse obsession (at least in modern times) can be traced back to the late 19th century and Dr. John Harvey Kellogg (the cereal guy) who, along with his brother, Will Keith, established a clinic in Battle Creek, MI. The clinic catered to the rich and powerful who spent large sums of money to journey to Battle Creek for enemas. I first learned about the Kelloggs and their fixation on feces some 35 years ago when I read a book called “The New Nuts Among the Berries” by Ronald M. Deutsch. This book, concerned primarily with what the author termed “foodism,” was the impetus for my fascination with health fraud. It’s long out of print, but it can be found on the shelves of many libraries and on online used book sources. I recommend it without reservation!

My mother was born in a generation that was still highly influenced by Kellogg and, from time to time, she submitted me to the indignity of an enema. There was no specific reason for it other than some vague notion that it was healthy. Today, an entire “detox” industry exists, apparently a direct offshoot of the Kelloggs’ zeal.

Another book of interest is a fictionalized, hilariously funny satire on the life and work of John H. Kellogg: “The Road to Wellville: by T. Coraghessan Boyle. It’s a laugh-a-minute thigh slapper. A film was adapted from the book but it’s very pale in comparison.

“If it doesn’t work after truly doing this for a good amount of time, then my best guess would be it’s a spiritual phenomena that you have to figure out.”

This fits in with 1) blaming the disease sufferer/victim, and 2) the Superior Altie Hypothesis (“My psyche/immune system/gestalt is topnotch, therefore I don’t need your We$tern drugs and treatments”).

What though if it’s your infant that keeps getting sick and the purges don’t work? How do you investigate and fix spiritual derangements in someone that young?

I’ve often thought alternative medicine would be a great place for a sadist. You can make people do all sorts of horrible things and your victims will be your staunchest defenders.

What are the health risks of enemas? Obviously if someone is genuinely ill, giving enemas pointlessly will delay proper treatment, but given it’s somwhat invasive in itself, what other harm could people be doing to their children?

And some people like to shove things up their….

Seriously, there has got to be an erotic component involved for many who advocate this, which makes it all the sicker for inflicting it on children.

Another aspect of enemas/ colonics reflects the need to be or appear thinner. So I’d expect it to accompany eating disorders and exercise manias.
I know this, I’ve been reading fashion magazines for a long time. Not that anyone ever says this directly.

“No, it’s not a real bear enema. Rather, it’s what the video represents, which is a young child pretending to give her toy bears enemas:”

Reminds me of the videos they make of small children, after asking them to “Show me me on the doll”.

@Sarah – there are real health risks with enemas – including perforating the bowel, which is why they should only be utilized when necessary & not part of some quack treatment.

Got a headache? Give yourself an enema! Got a belly ache? Give yourself an enema! Got a kidneys stone? Enema!

You know, if you stub your toe really hard, you can make the pain disappear by crushing your finger in a vise. I know that I feel lots better when an enema is over, but it has nothing to do with detoxification and everything to do with an uncomfortable procedure being over.

In re: Raw Vegans: Does the phrase “many parts are edible” come to mind when you read about them?

When I first read the details of this fashion for bizarre enema based treatments, I had to wonder whether you’d been caught out in some sort of satirical joke. It’s just too weird and over the top. Bleach enemas to cure autism? I thought that surely that is just a new “bonsai kitten” meme – something so outrageous, it has to be a prank designed to provoke a reaction. I don’t think that now, which is just so disturbing. Untrained parents are doing unnecessary invasive procedures on their children, guided by “intuition”!

I guess every complaint about illness resulted in an unpleasant procedure like an enema, I’d soon stop complaining of illness. Monarch’s thesis is just the old fashioned idea that effective medicine has to be a nasty treatment.

Also, if Monarch is a vegan, how come he’s flogging Royal Jelly on his website?

I thought they sounded familiar! I did remember Matt but recallecd that Adams also featured Angela Stokes ( Matt’s partner)- see ” How Angela Stokes went from 294 lbs to a fit, thin body..” ( October 2010)- amongst other paeans to raw food.

Matt and Angela lived near MIkey in Ecuador.
I wonder if they flew the coop like he did?

I’d like to see Monarch give a bear enema – to a real bear.

I think I had the more entertaining concept of a “real bear enema.” That being an enema where the water used CONTAINS a real bear!

@Sarah and messing up your gut flora, potentially. You’ve got a whole ecosystem in there, friends and foes, and periodically subjecting it to ‘anyone who can hang on gets to stay’ is not good for encouraging a good community.

Oh, and in my not so humble opinions, I think that a great deal of the fuss and obsession about veganism AND raw food is really about weight – not purity.

Some people want to be thinner than everyone else around them- as if it were revealed their true and intrinsic superiority.

@Beamup — well, if it was a homeopathic bear, that’s all right then.

(Leading inevitably to the old saying, does a bear s**t in the water?)

one of my neighbors who I was visiting was asking me if I had any Echinacea, Colloidal Silver or Ginseng. […] My inner core knew that the supplements they were asking for would do nothing in this case. […]This concept is being suppressed to dum*b-down the human popluation [sic] while taking all of their money in the hospitals at the same time.

It’s funny. Suddenly, advocates for colloidal silver (and Echinacea, etc) are now part of allopathic/mainstream medicine and of the big conspiration to keep people ignorant and sick.

Maybe next time a food supplement fan shows up, we should ask him/her how much the Man is giving him/her to suppress the Truth.

Somehow, there is a strong religious vib coming from these beliefs in the ultimate cure-all. All non-believers are heretics.

When I was a young child and visiting my aunt with my two siblings, we quickly learned to hide any sniffles or sneezes, because we were sure to face auntie who kept huge boxes of Swiss Kriss herbal laxative on hand.

“You need a good cleaning out”, according to auntie, just before she gave us a heaping tablespoon of that horrible stuff that tasted like bitter licorice and had the texture of hay.

The inventor of that herbal laxative was Gayelord Hauser who had some credibility with the Hollywood glitterati… “nutritionist to the stars”

I also recall my mom (auntie’s sister-in-law), reaming her out for shoving the crap into us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayelord_Hauser

I’m betting that Matt Monarch is not too pleased with this blog…

http://30bananasadaysucks.com/2012/08/matt-monarch-putting-his-private-life-out-there/

@ Helianthus:

re the quote:
“My inner core knew”

Yes, inner knowledge originates in the abdominals.

Enemas for raw-food vegans — something odd there, since one would think they’re filling their gut with lots of undigested/partially digested plant fiber — they should be shitting all the time naturally, no?

@Denise Walter: People take enemas to lose weight? How’s that supposed to work – by messing up digestion?

@ Andreas:

More likely colonics and other spa services.
It makes them feel thinner- for real weight loss, there are ultra-low carb regimes And old-fashioned starvation.

I’d venture that many follow woo in order to be thinner.

If you take your enema or colonic immediately before you get on the scales you may see some weight loss.

On top of concerns about bowel perforation and gut flora, another problem I seem to recall, particularly with frequent enemas, is hyponatremia from having your electrolytes washed out faster than you can replenish them.

Monarch’s thesis is just the old fashioned idea that effective medicine has to be a nasty treatment.

I think it fits in with the victim blaming. Nasty treatments, strange diets, and the quack hipster one-upmanship all seem to converge on the idea that health is something you have to earn by enduring hardship, and thus poor health is viewed as the result of poor character, rather than from biology.

Health shouldn’t be taken for granted, of course, but one of the big things in real medicine is removing and reducing hardship associated with treatment whenever possible so that the patient can enjoy life without unnecessary burdens.

The other big thing in real medicine is that practitioners tend to be candid about efficacy.

Unlike the chiropractor who has promised my admin asssistant that for $6K he will “cure” her chronically-ill son. He promised 100% success.

He has also informed her, after one office visit and no tests, that the issue is with the boy’s thyroid and autoimmune system.

SarahW,

what other harm could people be doing to their children?

You don’t see the potential for harm inherent in constraining a small child and injecting things into his/her rectum? Even before we consider the potential problems mentioned above.

The child in the bear video either did have the procedure more than once, or saw it done repeatedly, or was heavily coached. I’m not sure which of those options I find the most disturbing.

I’ve come to look upon various “detoxification” schemes and odd dietary regimens (which someone once referred to as “orthorexia”) as having a vague pseudo-religious slant.

These kinds of practices always seem to come with some reference to “spiritual” health. Talk of “cleansing” the body sounds a lot like “cleansing the soul.” The people who espouse this sort of thing remind me of true believers who feel that they have to follow a rigid doctrine of adhering to the faith, as well as their eagerness to proselytize others about the righteousness of their beliefs.

I’m sure someone better versed in theology would be better at interpreting this than me.

@Andreas – maybe it works on the same principle as purging with laxatives?

@Denice – while I don’t think it’s specifically being done for sexual purposes, it does have a disturbing sexual element.

You can treat a rabies infection with homeopathic remedies

Oh yes. Just don’t expect the treatment to make any difference.

a book called “The New Nuts Among the Berries” by Ronald M. Deutsch

Alex Comfort’s “The Anxiety Makers” is very good on the old fixation with enemas and auto-intoxication and bowel contents (up to and including the fad for surgical bowel resection to ensure faster through-put).

the life and work of John H. Kellogg: “The Road to Wellville: by T. Coraghessan Boyle
…which also introduced readers to the Fin de siècle discovery of vaginal massagers / vibrators as medical therapy. And touches on the bowel-resection business.

you have to supplement the enemas with raw vegetable juice and molasses

It is as if Monarch read Martin Gardner’s “Fads and Fallacies” looking for forms of woo that went out of fashion at least 50 years ago, in order to revive them. Perhaps he is worried about copyright infringements if he used anything more recent.

It’s funny. Suddenly, advocates for colloidal silver (and Echinacea, etc) are now part of allopathic/mainstream medicine and of the big conspiration to keep people ignorant and sick.

Am I the only one who read that as ‘big constipation’ at first glance?

@dedicated lurker: I confess I don’t know how (if) purging with laxatives works wrt weight loss either.

I’m one of those people who stay slim without trying, so my familiarity with weight loss schemes is distinctly limited.

It should be obligatory to quote Wllliam Burroughs at this juncture:

“Americans have a special horror of giving up control, of letting things happen in their own way without interference. They would like to jump down into their stomachs and digest the food and shovel the sh1t out.”

To be fair, it’s not just Americans. The Brits and French and Germans have all been equally obsessed with the inadequacy of normal colon function.

T Herling, that is an insight that I hadn’t thought much on before. It does sound a lot like magic rituals to drive out demons, doesn’t it?

A gentleman I once treated was concerned he had become allergic to his own feces. He felt it made him progressively more stupid, until he was able move his bowels. The problem, he described, was that he he had become constipated and by the third or fourth day without a bowel movement he was really clouded in his thinking. Fortunately he had stumbled onto a treatment for this ailment. He found that if he smoke marijuana, he could move his bowels and it would clear his head.

His family Dr (I wish I could take credit for this) had told him “your logic is sound…however, I have never heard or read of such a condition. Perhaps we can write up your case and submit it to a medical journal for publication. We will call it the Allergic Sh$# Syndrome… or A.S.S. for short.”

True story. Funniest thing I’ve ever heard.

@ Andreas:

Unfortunately I know quite a bit about eating disorders:
I didn’t actually study it formally- only glancingly- but I have perused research in the area later because:
one of the cousins’ daughters developed a serious problem,
I enjoy fashion and am intrigued with its relationship to obsession** and self- image
and it’s important in the psychology of women.

The DSM-5 should list ‘orthorexia’- concern with correct eating- which I think covers many of the woo-meisters and anti-vaxxers’ bizzare regimes for their children.

Another commenter mentioned the religious-aspect;;
transgression, punishment, forgiveness …
and endorphins, I suppose
I seriously don’t want to go there….
we’ll be here all week

** not the Calvin Klein product.

“They don’t like it up ’em!” Actually, in the case of the enema brigade, it seems they do.

Wavy lines again as I dip Into my dark and murky medical past.
One of my first jobs a ward was a Rectal Washout.
It involved insertion of a tube and repeated flushes with ‘Enamae Saponis’ (soft soap).
We used to pour in 50-70 litres (not all at once!) to prepare them for a colonoscopy.

With reference to Mr Kellogg, wasn’t he a 7th Day Adventist who developed corn flakes so nobody had to work on a Saturday?

There was another chap (again the name escapes) who made a fortune out of this shit (pun intended) and really and actually carried ou

Apologies, my mobile went herbal.

I meant to say this bloke carried out Total Colectomies.

Apologies for the lack of links and total reliance on anecdote.

I’ve had a very, very long and bad day.

@Narad, “Am I the only one who read that as ‘big constipation’ at first glance?”

Not only did I read it as “big constipation” at first glance, that seemed so reasonable that I didn’t look at it twice and didn’t realize I’d misread it until you pointed it out.

@Strewth

I wasn’t speaking necessarily of driving out demons, but more so that the idea of a lot of woo diets and enemas being based on some abstract idea of self-purification as a way of “cleansing one’s soul” by putting yourself through different trials of “denying yourself worldly goods,” that sort of thing.

I dated, very briefly, a woman heavily into woo who tried to get me to eat stuff that seemed like the gastronomic equivalent of the monks in “Holy Grail” hitting themselves in the head with boards.

Givum an enema againema!

The fixation with enemas does not originate with Kellogg. It likely goes back to antiquity. Certainly, it was big enough for Moliare to lampoon it in his final play, “La malade imaginaire.”

We clearly must expose Big Consta.

WRT to cannabis and being plugged up, one might expect a CB1 agonist to have the opposite effect, although this seems to be complicated, including the question of central versus peripheral action. Anecdotal reports of kif relief aren’t that hard to find.

I went googling for “Big Clyster” and found some images that frightened me.

Aha, faggots are meatballs made from pig scraps and offal.

Crepinettes (in the French), I believe; they are wrapped in caul fat, which of course is not offal but a rare and valuable commodity along the lines of leaf lard.

Caul I believe is the membrane that covers a newborn animals body. It supposedly gives the child supernatural powers.

My friend was born with a piece of caul and she was the granddaughter of an old Norwegian seaman…I wonder if he kept her caul to protect himself.

Caul I believe is the membrane that covers a newborn animals body.

Not in cookery; it’s the omentum (note to self: remember ‘epiploon’) found in the abdominal cavity.

Right you are Narad. If it is omentum…they should call it omentum. Have you ever had cow cod soup?

We had a LPN who cared for my son in our home and she joined us for meals when she was on duty. Nicest person you could ever want to care for your child. She offered to bring some home made ox-tail soup for my husband who loves exotic foods. Half way through eating the bowl of soup she told him it was cow cod soup…he thought it was superb.

Me…I like regular cuts of pigs, lambs and beef…not omentum or tripe or organs or offal.

If it is omentum…they should call it omentum.

Cooks know what ‘caul fat’ means. (I don’t offhand have a notion of how often “operculum” is actually invoked in instructions for cleaning whelk/scungilli.) It’s kind of like a sausage casing that melts.

Is that what that is on escargot…lesson learned.

Could be. Could be the other end, too. I haven’t seen snail meat in decades.

Meanwhile, there is a lively discussion going on at LB/RB. I think Lara is handling this guy quite well and I kinda chased Parker off the blog. Parker was also haunting Autismum’s blog with that same old story about her child’s “vaccine-induced encephalitis”.

http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2012/06/12/your-babys-best-shot-why-vaccines-are-safe-and-save-lives/

http://autismum.com/2012/09/05/your-babys-best-shot/

Parker’s new shtick is, ta, da, “Screaming Syndrome”.

As others have mentioned, this is a health obsession that is found in many different places and times — it’s really a very obvious synergy between commonsense and psychology.

No one has yet mentioned Mohandas Gandhi — he was adamant about the curative properties of the enema, did so at least once a day, and would reliably and regularly encourage his associates to adopt the practice.

What do ‘scrunched up’ eyebrows look like? This Monarch guy is a piss poor writer!

I also recommend “The New Nuts Among the Berries”. I read if after reading “The Road to Wellville” and I was shocked at how many quacks are saying essentially the same things Kellogg did, 100 years later. It is as if the entire accumulation of 20th century advances in nutrition and physiology has passed them by, i.e. they continue to spout the same nonsense that Kellogg did; one can forgive Kellogg to a certain extent as medicine was still breaking out of its medieval past but some 100 years later and the nuts today are saying the same thing. Nuts indeed.

some 100 years later and the nuts today are saying the same thing.
Tradition!!

I always thought “thinking with your gut” was a metaphor, but some take it to heart.

Urine not only cures cancer, but will keep you looking younger if you drink your own. Prolly read that here.

@al kimeea

Perhaps they misunderstood the British expression “taking the piss” and interpreted it literally.

al kimeea”

“scotch bonnets.”

Scotch bonnet is an extremely hot chile with a Scoville rating of 100,000 – 350,000 units! Compare that with the jalapeño, which most of us perceive as hot at only 2500 – 8000 units.

Consuming a few of those Scotch bonnets will obviate the need for any other type of purge! It’ll clean you out real good and real quick!

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