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Cancer quackery promoted on Fox News

I’ve always known that FOX News has a tendency to go for the sensationalistic story. I’ve also known that, given Rupert Murdoch’s political leanings, politically motivated pseudoscience like anthropogenic global warming denialism is the order of the day on FOX. I’ve even noticed a disturbing tendency on FOX to promote antivaccine views, for example, when a FOX interviewer tried to blame a case of dystonia on the flu vaccine or when the infotainment drones on Fox and Friends let The Donald (a.k.a. Donald Trump) blather ignorantly about vaccines and autism. I knew all that. However, I didn’t know that FOX News had decided to air a regular show that, among other woo, promotes cancer quackery, but apparently it had. I’m referring to A Healthy You & Carol Alt, a new show that just hit the air this month.

I became aware of Alt’s new project when a Google Alert popped up about a show she did on Saturday that included a segment An All-Natural Cure for Cancer? Now, if there’s one thing I’ve learned about any news show or editorial, it’s this: Whenever the title of a news segment or an article is presented in the form of a question, the answer to that question is almost always “no.” This segment is no exception. The reason is that, in it, Carol Alt interviews Nicholas Gonzalez.

You remember Nicholas Gonzalez, don’t you? Maybe not. It’s been a long time since I’ve discussed him. Basically, he is a doctor in New York City who has made a name for himself (if you can call it that) by treating cancer with pancreatic enzymes. His protocol to treat cancer involves various vegetable and fruit juices, meat extracts, supplement pills by the handful, and, to top it all off, at least daily coffee enemas. The meat extracts include organ extracts, specifically pancreatic extracts, that contain, of course, pancreatic enzymes. Gonzalez first attracted my attention through his claims that he can do so much better treating advanced pancreatic cancer, his evidence being a case series of about a dozen patients who, according to him, did so much better than historical controls. Alas, for Gonzalez, when his protocol was tested in a controlled clinical trial of pancreatic cancer patients, what happened is that patients undergoing his treatment actually did significantly worse than patients who received standard of care therapy. Naturally, Gonzalez whined and had many excuses about the failure of his protocol, a failure that was entirely predictable given the complete lack of scientific prior plausibility of his therapy. Naturally, none of his complaints had any merit. (Not that any of this stopped him from claiming that if only Steve Jobs had undergone the Gonzalez protocol he might still be alive today.)

The segment on Alt’s show is truly painful to behold. It begins with Alt (and, gee, is her name appropriate for promoting this sort of quackery) talking about how surgery and chemotherapy “may extend the lifespan of a cancer patient” and “in some cases even completely rid the patient of the disease.” Of course, depending on the cancer, it does this very thing far more than “in some cases.” Of course, to Alt, the price is horrific, with the pumping of “massive amounts of chemicals”—gasp!—into the body. We then learn that Alt was a cancer patient and that, more specifically, she was one of Dr. Gonzalez’s patients, and she touts her decision to choose Gonzalez as choosing “quality of life.”

It was at this point that curiosity almost got the better of me. I was going to stop watching the video segment and do a bit of Googling to find out what kind of cancer Alt had and what sorts of treatments he had. I resisted and watched the whole video and was disappointed to find that she never said exactly what kind of cancer she had, although she was effusive in her praise for Dr. Gonzalez and repeatedly said that she though he had saved her life. So before I wrote this post I Googled “Carol Alt cancer,” and what I found was surprisingly thin. There’s this article from 2008 in which Alt is quoted as blaming cervical and uterine cancer for the failure of her marriage to Ron Greschner because she had been rendered unable to have children and Greschner very much wanted to have children. This happened back in 1997; so her cancer diagnosis must have occurred before that. There was also this article, which said basically the same thing but also revealed that Alt is very much into raw food woo. This article reinforces the same points, but doesn’t mention Alt’s battle with cervical cancer and instead attributes her adopting a raw vegan diet to feeling run down and larger as she got older. In the article, she also spews many of the tropes and bits of misinformation about raw vegan diets. She even blathers on about “acid diets” and how the body likes to be “alkaline.” Holy Robert O. Young, Batman!

Here’s the interesting thing. Alt takes a lot of supplements. A lot of supplements. Back in 2007, she was described thusly:

If a raw food diet provides perfect nutrition, why does Alt also take supplements, sometimes close to 200 pills a day? With regular hair and blood tests, Alt has discovered her genetic body type (a moderate vegetarian, with some fish and occasional meat), and exactly what nutrients she needs at any given time.

In addition to modeling, Alt has been an actress for many years, appearing in over 60 films, often shot abroad. Depending on what she eats, especially when traveling, and her stress level, Alt’s supplement regimen changes, all under the guidance of her physician.

“I take supplements,” explains Alt, “because I believe that even raw foods today may not have everything we need. We live in the real world, and farmers may grow their food on land where they grew the same food last year and the years before that, or they may rotate the crops, but it’s very rare that land gets to rest and rejuvenate itself.” The result, says Alt, is soil depletion and food that may not have all the nutrients it was meant to have if grown in rich soil.

“Right now,” says Alt, “I take 192 pills a day. But that can change, according to my next hair test.” At the time of this exclusive interview for Life Extension magazine, Alt was taking a dehydrated fruit and vegetable juice powder supplement, systemic and digestive enzymes, vitamins A, C, D, and E, kelp, chlorophyll, sea algae, amino acids, selenium, magnesium citrate, calcium, vegetarian vitamins and minerals, and potassium, among others.

And she still is taking 192 pills a day or thereabouts if this segment on her FOX News show. Near the end of the segment, she proudly shows off a multiple boxes of her supplements, all arranged by breakfast, lunch, and dinner to Dr. Gonzalez and her audience. From the look of it, she takes a couple of fistfuls of supplements with each meal. Not only that, she’s proud of it! (Conspicuously absent, though, was any mention of coffee enemas, even though they are integral to the Gonzalez protocol.) Indeed, if you find this particular article from a few years ago, the woo and quackery flow in huge quantities, including acid-base quackery, supplements, claims that a friend of his cured his girlfriend’s cancer with a raw food diet, and the like:

And I swear to God that he answers whenever you do that. I got a phone call from a friend of mine, and I write about it in my book (Eating in the Raw), at my mother-in-law’s house. Now how many friends of yours have your mother-in-law’s number? None! I Go, “How did you get this number?” and he said, “I have no clue. I just have this number for you.” He goes, “I have to tell you this…you’re the healthiest person I know, so you’ll appreciate this…” And I’m thinking, “Holy cow, if I’m the healthiest person this guy knows my PR is doing a very good job, because I personally am feeling like garbage.” He goes, “My girlfriend is 22 years old and they wanted to do a radical hysterectomy on her. She was full of cancer. I took her to this doctor. Everybody was saying [we were] crazy. We went against every doctor, but I’m telling you, he will make you look at food like you’ve never looked at food before. He will change your life! You will not be able to eat with friends and watch what they put in their mouth, because you will know they are poisoning themselves. In six months, he cured my girlfriend of cancer. She just got a negative biopsy.”

This doctor was apparently Dr. Timothy Brantley. I briefly checked out his website, and let’s just say that he looks as though he might one day be deserving of some not-so-Respectful Insolence of his own in a post of his very own. Let’s just say that Brantley (who appears to be a naturopath—it’s not clear) is very much into digestive enzymes, just as much, apparently, as Dr. Gonzalez is.

Let’s get back to the interview, though. Apparently Dr. Gonzalez has a book out entitled What Went Wrong: The Truth Behind the Clinical Trial of the Enzyme Treatment of Cancer, in which he repeats the same whines he whined so loudly back in 2009 about how horrifically he was treated by the NCI (he wasn’t) and how badly designed the clinical trial was (it wasn’t perfect, but it certainly wasn’t really badly designed). Basically, read this post by me, and you’ll see pretty much every argument that is certainly in Gonzalez’s latest book shot down in flames as disingenuous nonsense. Just remember: Gonzalez’s protocol was tested, and it was worse than the standard of care, and that’ saying something, given how ineffective the current standard of care for advanced pancreatic cancer is. Oddly enough, even though Gonzalez’s book was mentioned, he said very little about it and almost nothing was said about his failed clinical trial. One would have thought he would have been dying to lambaste big pharma and make excuses for the failure of his clinical trial. Instead, he blathered on about John Beard’s trophoblastic “theory” of cancer, which was adopted by William Donald Kelly, a dentist, and then later by Nicholas Gonzalez. It’s a “theory” that was discarded nearly 100 years ago because it explained nothing, predicted nothing, and did not describe biology well. Indeed, whenever I read about the “trophoblastic theory of cancer,” to this day I still have a hard time figuring out how this “theory” leads to the use of digestive enzymes to treat cancer, particularly given that only very tiny amounts of proteins like digestive enzymes can find their way into the bloodstream after passing through the GI tract. The vast majority of such proteins are completely broken down to amino acids and very small peptides.

So what happened to Carol Alt? After this segment and my Googling, I have a hard time figuring it out. Apparently sometime in the 1990s she had a bunch of chronic health problems, placing a key incident in her life as happening around age 34 when she was confronted with a younger, perkier, more energetic model who upstaged her at a photo shoot and realized that she was getting old. (Sadly, age 34 is old for a model.) What the circumstances were regarding her diagnosis of cervical and uterine cancer, what her treatments were, how she ended up with Gonzalez, all are unknown, at least from online searches. If previous testimonials are any indication, I bet I can make a reasonable guess as to what happened. Most likely, Alt had an early stage cancer that could be treated with a cone biopsy (which removes part of the cervix) and a dilatation and curettage (a.k.a., a D & C). As can happen with these procedures, her cervix and uterus were affected such that she could not carry a pregnancy to term anymore. In any case, most likely the surgery “cured” her, and all the supplements and coffee enemas did nothing. I could be wrong, but I bet I’m probably not. Unfortunately, it’s impossible to say without more information.

In any case, one wonders about one thing. Why is Carol Alt taking hundreds of supplements nearly 20 years after being treated for cancer? Dr. Gonzalez claims that he’s taking his own protocol to prevent cancer. Maybe Alt thinks she’s doing the same thing. Either way, she’s fallen for quackery, and it’s depressing. Even worse, she’s using her new show to promote it. We can only hope the ratings are such that the show is not on the air long.

By Orac

Orac is the nom de blog of a humble surgeon/scientist who has an ego just big enough to delude himself that someone, somewhere might actually give a rodent's posterior about his copious verbal meanderings, but just barely small enough to admit to himself that few probably will. That surgeon is otherwise known as David Gorski.

That this particular surgeon has chosen his nom de blog based on a rather cranky and arrogant computer shaped like a clear box of blinking lights that he originally encountered when he became a fan of a 35 year old British SF television show whose special effects were renowned for their BBC/Doctor Who-style low budget look, but whose stories nonetheless resulted in some of the best, most innovative science fiction ever televised, should tell you nearly all that you need to know about Orac. (That, and the length of the preceding sentence.)

DISCLAIMER:: The various written meanderings here are the opinions of Orac and Orac alone, written on his own time. They should never be construed as representing the opinions of any other person or entity, especially Orac's cancer center, department of surgery, medical school, or university. Also note that Orac is nonpartisan; he is more than willing to criticize the statements of anyone, regardless of of political leanings, if that anyone advocates pseudoscience or quackery. Finally, medical commentary is not to be construed in any way as medical advice.

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“It’s basically Dr. Oz, but think 180 degrees,” said Carol. “It’s all alternative. It’s the things you don’t see in the mainstream … We’re doing a show on enzyme cures for cancer, the debate on vaccinations, coffee, mistakes people make in yoga.”

“Right now,” says Alt, “I take 192 pills a day. But that can change, according to my next hair test.”

In Part 5 of this Dateline NBC episode, beginning @2:38, Dr. Gonzales discusses that he uses Joan McClure to perform “metabolic analysis” on his patients’ hair samples. Dr. Gonzales’ hair test relies on the intuition of Joan McClure – not on any science, but a witchcraft-like pseudoscience.

Sadly, New York appears to embrace pseudo-scientific medical practices based on intuitive readings, such as Dr. Gonzales’ hair analysis techniques. The New York State Department of Education, which includes their medical licensing and oversight boards has gone so far as to accredit the trainings of Dr. Yoshiaki Omura, who uses a BDORT O-Ring test to detect cancer, infectious diseases and many other serious diseases.

Dr. Yoshiaki Omura is licensed to practice in New York and his medical board record shows no findings. His techniques, including the BDORT O-Ring test and acupuncture, have been accredited* by the New York State Department of Education.

*“All ICAET meetings are accredited by the New York State Boards for Medicine and Dentistry toward the 300-accredited hour requirement for the Acupuncture Certificate in New York State.. “

According to the journal “On Contradictions Between Chinese and Tibetan Pulse Diagnosis” by Phillip Shinnick in The Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine, October 2012, 18(10): 889-891, the BDORT O-Ring test is similar to the use of pulse diagnosis. They offer their tests as a “low-cost noninvasive diagnostic method sorely needed to balance the high-cost diagnostic tests performed in the United States.

Why is Alt taking hundreds of supplements years after her cancer was treated?

Because altie lore dictates that everyone needs supplements for everything and hey, conditions add up. I would guess that probably because she is concerned with appearance that quite a few are for “anti-aging” effects”** as well as anti-cancer formulae. There are loads of herbs/ supplements for weight control, skin rejuvenation, hair and nails, muscle tone- you name it.

Amongst those I survey there is a big deal being made of phyto-nutrients- which she echoes by saying that foods today aren’t as nutritionally loaded as they were long ago. So dried fruit and vegetable*** powders are sold as are extracted specific nutrients from foods. As well as high ORAC nutrients ( anti-oxidants), amino acids, protein powders etc.

Last week, I had some time to kill while waiting for my car to be serviced, so I wandered around a supplement store: being asked if I was looking for something in particular, I decided to lie and say that I really needed something for allergies ( which I do have seasonally). I was presented with a long list of herbs and supplements which could help my condition- including colloidal silver, goldenseal, echinacea, B vitamins etc. I didn’t purcahse anything but I’m sure another person who believed might have left the store with a bagful of woo.

** True anti-aging elixirs would have to kill you so you didn’t age any more.
*** much is made of the greens ( chlorophylls) vs the carotenes, antho- and proanthocyanadins ( yellow, orange, reds, purples, blues). Thus more separate products to sell to keep your health drinks from getting that muddy, dull appearance.

I came across this blog because I was told I was mentioned in it as a putative quack by a « woo fighter » for my invention of Cell Inflation Assisted Chemotherapy. Alas, there should have been insufficient evidence for quackery, otherwise I would have a chance to become as famous as Burzynski. You’d better pay attention to inventors than to quacks, because, for those believing in quackery, there is no way to convince them rationally, and talking about quacks just give them publicity. For instance, I think that « official » personalized cancer medicine is a dead end, but rather than writing it everywhere, I considered more positive to propose something else. So, try to be positive too, ignore what doesn’t work, and support what might work.

“Right now,” says Alt, “I take 192 pills a day. But that can change, according to my next hair test.” At the time of this exclusive interview for Life Extension magazine, Alt was taking a dehydrated fruit and vegetable juice powder supplement, systemic and digestive enzymes, vitamins A, C, D, and E, kelp, chlorophyll, sea algae, amino acids, selenium, magnesium citrate, calcium, vegetarian vitamins and minerals, and potassium, among others.

And how much does this cost? I’m sure some of those are only a few cents per pill, but some of the others sound like expensive habits to me. So she’s spending somewhere between $3k and $30k annually on this stuff. That’s on top of rent (I’m assuming she lives in Manhattan, which has particularly high costs) and other basic living expenses. In other words, somebody who probably can’t afford to lose her current job.

@ Eric Lund:

Right. The powders and arcane ingredients cost a lot:
if you go the Adams’ store ( @ Natural News.com) or Gary Null.com, you can add up what it’d cost to follow their plans.

They advise that people take a plethora of products daily, so 192 doesn’t sound high to me being as I am familiar with this dreck.

They deride the average diet people ingest and then mention that if you have a poor diet ( mostly everyone) and can’t yet “live right” )- probably because of your lower morality or innate deviancy- AT THE VERY LEAST supplement with the super foods, powdered vegetables and fruits: so they get two groups- the orhorectics who do eat precisely calibrated excellent nutritional perfection and infernal backsliders who at least avoid instant death from fast foods.

Mr. Corcos,
Apparently, you were misled. A search on this site reveals no mention of your name (in the “search this blog” box situated prominently at the top of the blog). Are you trolling for exposure? Your post is odd, are you pro quack, anti-quack? I see that you do research in Parkinsons, are you also a cancer researcher? The Woo Fighters await your response with bated breath . . .

Apparently, you were misled. A search on this site reveals no mention of your name (in the “search this blog” box situated prominently at the top of the blog).

There was one comment in which Kelly Bray asked whether anybody had heard of him.

Dr. Corcos,

First of all, your post is off-topic. I’ve noticed you’ve posted on a few different cancer threads here to promote your invention. It seems as if you are seeking attention, which is always a red flag.

I never called you a quack outright: please go back and read my post. I was responding to a question another reader had about you and your “invention.” I pointed out that I could find no indexed research on PubMed and the only research I did find was self-published. You made a sweeping claim that you have invented a breakthrough cancer treatment that has received no attention anywhere else, and your several spam comments on the American Cancer Society website did remind me of Burzynski’s modus operandi and rang the “brave lone maverick doctor” warning bell.

I ended my comment by saying something like “Who knows? This doctor may have invented something groundbreaking that will win him a Nobel Prize.”

Woo Fighter: “I’ve noticed you’ve posted on a few different cancer threads here to promote your invention. It seems as if you are seeking attention, which is always a red flag.”

Exactly. The only I noticed him was his “Look at me! Look at me!” comment.

I also warned the original reader who asked the question that there is another doctor with the identical name who is involved with Parkinson’s research, is associated with the Michael J. Fox Foundation and seems quite legitimate. I didn’t want the two names to get confused.

Suggesting that you’ve invented one is too strong a claim, given that your Wiley article establishes you haven’t yet even demonstrated proof of concept.

Before I go to a doctor, I will have them write a paragraph. And if it sounds like this one,

‘I came across this blog because I was told I was mentioned in it as a putative quack by a « woo fighter » for my invention of Cell Inflation Assisted Chemotherapy. Alas, there should have been insufficient evidence for quackery, otherwise I would have a chance to become as famous as Burzynski. You’d better pay attention to inventors than to quacks, because, for those believing in quackery, there is no way to convince them rationally, and talking about quacks just give them publicity. For instance, I think that « official » personalized cancer medicine is a dead end, but rather than writing it everywhere, I considered more positive to propose something else. So, try to be positive too, ignore what doesn’t work, and support what might work.’

I will go to a new doctor.

Not that Fox ‘News’ cares, I emailed them this is despicable to promote ‘food cures cancer’.

It seems as if you are seeking attention, which is always a red flag.

I found this to be a head-scratcher:

Actually, it is the same reason why I don’t put the following publication in researchgate, although Cancer Medicine has not updated download numbers for a while

While the wording on their usage graph, which suggests that there should be daily updates, is misleading, I doubt that Wiley is doing it by hand (Vol. 1 looks to have been weekly). It’s a non-research article in a startup OA journal that is at least in part a recycling station* by design; 105 downloads over 4 months doesn’t seem off.

As to “I was told I was mentioned in it as a putative quack,” something tells me that this involves a Google Alert.

* Wiley’s “Manuscript Transfer Program” shuttles rejected papers to alternative venues with reviewers’ comments intact.

Thank you all for your interest. I will be soon as famous as Burzynski. What you don’t realize is that if you are looking for publicity, it doesn’t matter whether people agree with you or not. Thanks to this blog, I know a bunch of quacks I didn’t even imagine they could exist. The way to celebrity has nothing to do with science. And it can be used by people with or without legitimacy. If Nature (the journal) spams my e-mail box with the “big discovery” of induced stem cells that can give rise to teratomas in mice (obviously of no use for treatment) this kind of spam is legit. But basically, “legitimate” or not, everybody whowants to be heard use now mass communication. As long as you consider me as a quack, you will talk about me, and people will have a chance to read my paper. This has nothing to do with science. Science lies elsewhere, when people have the opportunity to falsify a theory.
@ JGC
You’re perfectly right, but you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. You may find this not “scientific” but the aim is to avoid deaths from cancer, isn’t it?

@Daniel – striving to be “as famous as Burzynski” isn’t necessarily something that you should aspire to…..

Daniel Corcos: You may find this not “scientific” but the aim is to avoid deaths from cancer, isn’t it?

You’re half right. From what I’ve read of Orac, he also seems to want to avert needless suffering. Burzynski and his ilk peddle false hope and their treatments prolong suffering and often make the patients worse than they would have been if they’d never gone to him in the first place.

DC: What you don’t realize is that if you are looking for publicity, it doesn’t matter whether people agree with you or not.
No, it does matter that people agree with you. It’s also pretty important to have reality agree with you. So far, reality doesn’t seem to agree with the doctors in this article.
As for you, ‘Dr.’ Corcos, you act more like a ringmaster than a doctor. I don’t know if you’ve stumbled onto something or not, but I sincerely doubt it. Also, before anyone else beats me to it- citation needed.

Why is Alt taking hundreds of supplements years after her cancer was treated?

Because she has adopted an orthorexic diet supposedly tailored to her Special Snowflake body type; and it leaves her with deficiency diseases?

And it can be used by people with or without legitimacy. If Nature (the journal) spams my e-mail box with the “big discovery” of induced stem cells that can give rise to teratomas in mice (obviously of no use for treatment) this kind of spam is legit. But basically, “legitimate” or not, everybody whowants to be heard use now mass communication. As long as you consider me as a quack, you will talk about me, and people will have a chance to read my paper.

Spamming is easy, yes… and extremely ineffective. The ease allows hundreds, thousands of internet grifters to compete for the same limited pool of money, with nothing to single out one as better than the others. It’s a lottery.

Peer-review science may seem like a lottery at times but it’s a better lottery… when you discover something objectively, demonstrably true which no-one has grasped, then your chances of success is slightly higher.

Commenters here sometimes joke about the fortunes they could make if only they lost their scruples and followed the Burzynski / Adams path, but in practice they’re all sticking to their day jobs. For all of the Fox / HuffPo attempts to grow the market and increase the pool of ill-informed scam customers, it’s still a competitive market, and for every quack who makes millions there are hundreds who fail.

@ Daisy:

“Dr. Yoshiaki Omura is licensed to practice in New York and his medical board record shows no findings. His techniques, including the BDORT O-Ring test and acupuncture, have been accredited* by the New York State Department of Education.”

Um, not quite. Dr. Yoshiaki Omura, apparently was licensed in NY State as a Medical Doctor, but he no longer is licensed in New York. He is not licensed as an acupuncturist.

http://www.nysed.gov/coms/op001/opsc2a?profcd=60&plicno=122947&namechk=OMU

@ Lawrence
I don’t aspire to be famous. I just want that people consider my proposal.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cam4.91/pdf
@ Politicalguinepig
I don’t doubt that Orac wants to advert needless suffering. But I doubt he have chosen the good way. The more you talk about quacks, the better they do. Just ignore them. Or if you really want to fight them, find a true cancer cure and they will not find any victim.
It is important that SOME people agree with me. But those who do not agree help me if they publicly disagree. The worst thing is to be ignored.

@ Daniel Corcos:

I disagree: there are charlatans who masquerade as experts who manipulate people who are frightened by cancer and other illnesses.

I was always taught – by my family- that if I knew something that could help others, I should let them know. I do know about how frauds sell themselves and useless products because of my studies and experience.

Talking about quacks doesn’t always help them but hopefully , it will put them on the defence and possibly curb their activities by making them have to answer questions from potential clients.

Silence is wrong.

@ herr doktor bimler
“Peer review science is a better lottery.” Maybe, but maybe not. Once you have published in a peer reviewed journal, the game is over, except if you benefit from media coverage orchestrated by companies or rich universities. It’s an error to think that simply because you’re right or good, things will work for you. Coca Cola and Mc Donald are famous because they are the best, aren’t they? Enjoy CIAC!

@ Denice Walker
I agree that denouncing a charlatan masquerading as an expert is a duty. But when the guy is already known as a quack, and what he says is obviously to deceive stupid people, arguing with rational evidence is useless.

Daniel Corcos wrote

Once you have published in a peer reviewed journal, the game is over, except if you benefit from media coverage orchestrated by companies or rich universities.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by that. It’s my understanding that research published in peer review journals is more likely to be read by other researchers and, if interesting, replicated and (hopefully) confirmed. But maybe I’m an idealist.

@Daniel Corcos <blockquoteI agree that denouncing a charlatan masquerading as an expert is a duty. But when the guy is already known as a quack, and what he says is obviously to deceive stupid people, arguing with rational evidence is useless.But how are people to know that the guy is a quack and what he says is to deceive stupid people if others don”t, as it were, speak up?

@lilady, I overlooked that it said “Not registered”. Good to hear that from you. I was curious how you would respond to my comment. Omura also claims to be the Director of Medical Research at the Heart Disease Foundation in New York, but I can find no such organization yet.

Director of Medical Research at the Heart Disease Foundation in New York. And he’s an adjunct professor at the Department of Community and Preventative Medicine at New York Medical College”.

Likewise, it’s good to hear Denice stand up to Daniel Corcos. She’s being way too kind to him. Perhaps one day he too will become seriously ill, and thus “stupid”.

Just a little protip from an ad man, Corcos. In your posts you come off as craven, grasping, desperate for attention, quacky, kind of unstable, slightly illiterate and not just a little creepy. You might want to rethink your brilliant PR “strategy.” Hire professionals.

Coca Cola and Mc Donald are famous because they are the best, aren’t they? Enjoy CIAC!

ummm…..Coca Cola and Mc Donald compared to various research groups….methink that they have different goals and staff thus not really comparable.

Alain

I have never gotten the alt-med obsession with shoving coffee up the ol’ “Mike-Adams” hole. Does it speed up caffeine absorption? Does the coffee just move things along? Can I get a double soy latte with an extra shot and a sprinkle of nutmeg on top?

Am I totally missing out by ingesting my coffee the boring, Big Coffee-shill, mouth-based way?

@ Daisy: I’m not about to tackle Omura’s credentials. All sorts of wacky CNE/CME “credits” are offered to nurses and doctors.

#26 Or you could “orchestrate” your own press coverage with a simple call to your local newspaper/site. Seriously. It’s often that easy.

I’m not a huge fan of Coca-Cola, but I think they may very well be the best at what they do at present. Just sayin’.

I prefer Dr. Pepper myself, or Vernor’s.

@ Daisy:

Thanks. I notice that he got my name slightly wrong- I mean really- it’s not that difficult
or in farsi, thai or gaelic.

@ c0nc0rdance:

I think that the coffee ( il crappuccino?) is supposed to make the liver function better if it is delivered that way.

I have no idea why they believe that.

Gonzales says medical literature has dozens of articles from major medical institutions like Harvard evidencing that coffee enemas work. Denice, he explains in his YouTube video that they’ll successfully treat Bipolar patients.

@ c0nc0rdance:

I have never gotten the alt-med obsession with shoving coffee up the ol’ “Mike-Adams” hole.

Alties have an obsession that borders on fetish with forcing various liquids into the colon. I think it stems from unresolved anxiety about normal bodily functions, but that is merely my unscientific opinion. I will continue to ingest my coffee the traditional way. Lately I’ve been making Moroccan-style coffee – grinding the beans with cinnamon, cloves, cardamom, nutmeg, ginger and black pepper, then brewing it in my French press pot. Amazing!

@DW – I read

Thanks. I notice that he got my name slightly wrong- I mean really- it’s not that difficult
or in farsi, thai or gaelic.

as farsi, thai & garlic

If the woos are doing garlic enemas I don’t want to know about it.

@Daisy

that they’ll successfully treat Bipolar patients

I suspect this is true for a sufficiently broad definition of success that includes depression following mania and vice versa. I expect that in short order Gonzales will be “successfully treating” asthma, MS, fibromialga, and flat feet with coffee enemas.

@Edith,

Lately I’ve been making Moroccan-style coffee – grinding the beans with cinnamon, cloves, cardamom, nutmeg, ginger and black pepper

All at the same time? Where do you get your recipes for coffee?

Alain

I prefer Dr. Pepper myself, or Vernor’s.

I revisited Vernor’s for the first time in a long while a few years ago,* and I was quite disappointed by the lack of, well, ginger. I mean, I don’t expect too much from mass market ginger ales, but this was closer to cream soda. I suppose I should try it again, as I’ve been going through the diet versions of all of these lately, with Seagram’s on top at the moment.

* Green River fared pretty poorly, as well.

… not to focus on a triviality, but: I take 14 pills a day, and I am SICK OF TAKING PILLS. I think I would honestly consider “to hell with it, I’ll just die” a legitimate alternative to taking 192 of the damn things.

Re: Coffee up the bum

Sometimes the coffee in our hospital cafe tastes like it has just had a stint as an enema.* This could help to perpetuate the myth of efficacy by this route.

*Joke blatantly stolen from “The Yiddish Policemen’s Union” by Michael Chabon (a cracking good novel IMHO)

[email protected] #35:

From what I’ve read (and I’ve never tried it, so don’t quote me), supposedly the caffeine is better absorbed when one takes coffee rectally rather than orally. However, as pointed out above, this is not the reason coffee enemas are so often prescribed by quacks.

#18 Daniel Corcos, September 23, 2013:

This has nothing to do with science. …
You may find this not “scientific” but the aim is to avoid deaths from cancer, isn’t it?

Actually, no, it’s not. If it were, there are many known techniques that are cheaper and easier to use.
One could avoid all deaths from cancer using the Burzinski method, lethal hypernatræmia; one could use the standard government method, lethal hyperkalæmia; one could use a Michael Jackson cocktail. The list goes on and on, and includes ‘scientific’ as well as non-scientific treatments. The only requirement is that the patient be so treated before he/she dies of cancer.
The actual aim is to prolong useful, quality life without cancer. To do this, what works is to find the best treatments (and preventatives, where possible) for the various cancers, with the patient characteristics that allow or prevent each treatment. Because of the large number of distinct diseases lumped under the term “cancer”, this goal needs an armamentarium of treatments.
This armamentarium is developed using the process known as science to validate and characterise good treatments, and eliminate bad ones.
The scientific processes are a pain to those who want to make personal profit through quackery, like Burzinski (and, it appears, you), but is the way real medicine saves lives.

@ Mephistopheles O’Brien
” But maybe I’m an idealist”. Exactly what I was when I began research. I’ve been the first to show oncogene-induced genetic instability and BCR alterations in lymphoma, established facts that are now in the textbooks, but were largely ignored after their publication and have been re-discovered by US scientists. That’s what I call American revenge: when the Europeans “discovered” America, they did’nt consider that it had already been discovered by the Americans (native); now, the Americans take their revenge: they don’t pay attention to discoveries made by Europeans. More seriously, I think that doing good work is not enough for having a scientific reputation.
@ Pareidolius
“Hire professionals”
I don’t expect any financial return from the Cell Inflation Assisted Chemotherapy project. Why should I spend money? As you can judge, my strategy has an interesting cost efficiency ratio. You can have a look to my paper, or the youtube slide show and make your opinion. Concerning my “illiteracy” you did’nt even noticed that I was foreign. Parlez-vous français?
@ Bill Price
The goal of CIAC is not to avoid cancer deaths by making people die. Please read my paper. Concerning personal profit, I made it clear that there is no financial return expected, and, as far as I know, I don’t have cancer. But I think that the method could be ready within 5 years if enough people are interested.

supposedly the caffeine is better absorbed when one takes coffee rectally rather than orally.

Whether absorbed by the small intestine or the large intestine, the caffeine is all going into the portal hepatic vein and straight to the liver before any other organs catch a whiff of it, so I don’t see the advantage.

Alt has discovered her genetic body type (a moderate vegetarian, with some fish and occasional meat),

This made me chuckle. Her “genetic type” is a “moderate vegetarian.” etc?

I never realized that vegetarian was genetic.

If it’s caffeine content you’re looking for, find an ex-sailor and have them brew up a batch of mid-watch coffee.

I have it on good authority that Navy HAZMAT crews are called in to dispose of any leftovers.

@ Militant Agnostic:

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if some woo advised shoving garlic juice up there since garlic is often viewed as a magickal elixir, anti-biotic, anti- cancer, whatnot.

I’ve often heard the woo guru @ PRN advise juicing garlic and drinking it – one should work one’s way up to several cloves a day – his own regime.

What’s wrong with these people?

I’ve often heard the woo guru @ PRN advise juicing garlic and drinking it – one should work one’s way up to several cloves a day – his own regime.

What’s wrong with these people?

Indeed, the other hallmark of a woo is bizarre eating habits, often bordering on orthorexia. Given that garlic is a staple of many cuisines, it should be quite simple to incorporate garlic into your everyday diet. Whip up a batch of hummus, some tzatzkiki or tahini sauce, aioli, nearly any Asian dish (get your ginger in there too!), some Cuban Sopa de Ajo, fresh tomato sauce, chicken with 40 cloves of garlic…OK, now I’m hungry. What were we talking about?

@ Edith:

Correction: that should be several HEADS ( is that what they’re called?)- the cloves are the little segments, I meant the WHOLE THING.

@Nick – I love skordalia! can’t go wrong with mashed potatoes and lots of garlic. In fact, when I go out for Greek food I often just order a mezes platter (it must have taramasalata though) and a salad instead of a main course.

Correction: that should be several HEADS ( is that what they’re called?)- the cloves are the little segments, I meant the WHOLE THING.

Ah – that sounds more like something Null(ity) would recommend. Although making chicken with 40 cloves of garlic uses about 3 heads worth- but I’m sure he’d say cooking garlic destroys all the magical properties the juice contains.

It must be a real treat riding an elevator with him.

It must be a real treat riding an elevator with him.

Love in an elevator,
Living it up when I’m going down,
Love in an elevator,
loving it up ’till I hit the ground 🙂

Don”t look at me sideway, I’ve been listening to Aerosmith’s greatest hit since this morning.

Thanks for the Moroccan coffee recipes and the birthday wishes.

Alain

I barbecued a flank steak for dinner and slathered some homemade chimichurri on top; accompanied by sauteed cauliflower/sauteed garlic with a smidgen of dried red pepper flakes. Paradise.

I had leftover Greek salad from my favorite Greek restaurant with their great dressing and slices of pita with some garlicky tzatziki for lunch.

Mmm garlic, but according to the ENER-CHI Wellness Center – Your Trusted Source of Natural Healing Methods – Garlic is Very Toxic for the Body

Brain damage, intestinal perfs and in WW2, the gang that couldn’t shoot straight, AKA the Italian Army, rubbed garlic on their bullets to make a nick as good as a kill.

Ayurveda doesn’t recommend garlic at all…

the gang that couldn’t shoot straight, AKA the Italian Army, rubbed garlic on their bullets to make a nick as good as a kill.

That’s probably a good idea when you’re dealing with WW2 vampires, but otherwise it seems a tad gratuitous.

Mmm garlic, but according to the ENER-CHI Wellness Center – Your Trusted Source of Natural Healing Methods – Garlic is Very Toxic for the Body

I’ve mentioned it before, but Vaishnavas (best known to many from the followers of Swami Prabhupada, viz., “Hare Krishnas”) reject garlic, onions, etc., as being not just tamasic but rajasic to boot. There’s a post hoc kitchen-sink justification of this in the finest pork-is-treyf-because-trichinosis-duh tradition here

@Narad – no more garlic or onions it is then

from your link it appears the results of centuries of empiric investigations by the broad science of yoga are supported by the more recent discoveries of Reiki Masters and Homeopaths

Case closed

@Narad – no more garlic or onions it is then
How about leeks? AFAF.

Repeated administration of fresh garlic increases memory retention in rats.
Yes, they learn NOT TO EAT GARLIC.

Sorry Herr Doktor, I am not a gorgeous girl, so perhaps you’ve confused me with the American Fine Arts Festival?

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