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Mike Adams attacks Jimmy Kimmel for “hate speech”

The last couple of days have been unrelentingly serious and depressing, with posts on the (probably) preventable death of a young Australian woman named Jess Ainscough of a rare cancer because she made the mistake of choosing the quackery that is the Gerson protocol rather than conventional medicine. Unfortunately, the “natural health community” will almost certainly learn nothing from her story, in which Ainscough, facing the very unpleasant prospect of a radical amputation, instead chose Gerson therapy and became an evangelist for that particular form of cancer quackery and “natural healing.” I felt sorry for her, even though I couldn’t approve of how she potentially led people with cancer down the road of pseudoscience and quackery with her enthusiastic promotion of coffee enemas and the rest of the nonsense Charlotte Gerson sells based on her father’s protocol.

I need to lighten up.

Who better to provide the comic relief from this thus far grim week than that buffoon of buffoons, Mike Adams? Even better, unlike Ainscough, who was herself a victim of whatever cancer quacks sold her on the Gerson protocol in the first place, Adams is no victim. He’s also pissed off (his usual state of mind) Why is he so ticked off? Well, he’s not happy with Jimmy Kimmel over this bit he did Friday night on his show:

Normally, I don’t watch Jimmy Kimmel, even on the now rare times when I’m up that late. (My wife and I tend to be so beat on Friday nights that our typical ritual on most Fridays is to order pizza, maybe with a glass of wine—or not—and then fall asleep with the dog on the couch by 10 PM.) I saw it Saturday morning, as it was making the rounds on social media, and I thought it was hilarious.

Mike Adams was not so amused. doing that faux outrage schtick he does so well to fire up his minions against the evil depredations of big pharma and the government, he published a spittle-flecked rant (are there any other kinds from Mike Adams?) entitled OUTRAGE! Jimmy Kimmel makes fun of vaccine-damaged children, revives hate speech bigotry on national TV. I must admit, I was surprised it took him nearly four days to come up with this, but I did chuckle at the histrionic title of the post before I read a single word:

Throughout U.S. history, certain selected groups of citizens have been subjected to extreme verbal, judicial and even physical abuse at the hands of bigoted oppressors. The historical abuse of African-Americans — subjected to generations of abusive language and racism that still lingers today — was villainously summed up with a bigoted hate speech label I dare not utter here.

Gay Americans were similarly subjected to the label of “[email protected]@-t,” a hate-based derogatory slur invoked to demean a human being because of their sexual orientation. It was this campaign of verbal abuse and derogatory hate speech that helped give rise to violence against gays in America.

Importantly, every effort to demean and denigrate a selectively targeted class of citizens — whether for their skin color, their sexual orientation or their beliefs — has been preceded by a campaign of verbal abuse intended to dehumanize that targeted group. The invocation and use of bigoted, derogatory labels lays the social and cultural groundwork for not only discrimination but even actual violence committed against the groups being targeted.

Racism and hate speech are wrong. It is morally, politically and socially incorrect to use hate speech labels in a derogatory manner in a civilized society. These terms are hate-based forms of speech meant to emotionally hurt and demean targeted groups of innocent people. Yet, astonishingly, it has now emerged in America that it is socially acceptable to use precisely the same bigoted hate-speech language against another group: children who are damaged by vaccines (and children who are unvaccinated). This group is now being widely and aggressively disparaged with the hate-based term “anti-vaxxers.”

Did you watch the video? I did. Kimmel didn’t make fun of any children, “vaccine-injured,” autistic, or neurotypical, or otherwise. Not at all. Rather, he made fun of “antivaxers,” basically mocking their sense of entitlement and, above all, their apparent belief that their Google University knowledge trumps the actual knowledge of doctors, using a rather hilarious fake public service announcement with doctors complaining about this and using slightly profanity-laced exhortations to parents to get their kids vaccinated. It was an excellent deconstruction of the Dunning-Kruger effect that makes antivaccinationists antivaccinationists.

Kimmel’s five minute comedy bit is not “hate speech,” although complaining about “hate speech” or “bullying” has become the go-to whine from antivaccinationists facing criticism for their choices, a whine that’s become even more intense in light of the Disneyland measles outbreak since Christmas. Criticism of pseudoscience and quackery is not “hate speech.” It’s just not. For one thing, hate speech usually involves attacking groups who are the way they are through no choice of their own. Think attacking Jews or African-Americans on the basis of their religion or race. Think attacking homosexuals because of their sexual orientation. Yes, those are the examples Adams used, but how is one of these things (antivaccinationists) not like the others (blacks or homosexuals)? That’s right. Antivaccinationists choose to be antivaccinationists. Also, blacks and gays do no harm to society by being black or gay. Antivaccinationists, through their choices not to vaccinate, are largely responsible for the resurgence of diseases once thought vanquished—like measles.

Not that that stops Adams when he’s on a roll even more ridiculous than one of his typical rants:

In a stunning demonstration of demeaning hate speech targeting children who have suffered brain damage from vaccines, comedian Jimmy Kimmel unleashed a satire comedy hit piece that, fifty years ago, would have almost certainly seen Kimmel making fun of black people. Twenty years ago, he would have been making fun of gay people. But today, in 2015, Jimmy Kimmel directs his ignorance, bigotry and demeaning hate speech toward vaccine-damaged children who are now labeled “anti-vaxxers.”

Given that Adams brought race into this, you know where this is going; that is, if you’ve been following this blog at least since August and recall the kerfuffle over the trumped up “CDC Whistleblower” manufactroversy:

Not only is Jimmy Kimmel using bigoted hate speech language to demean crippled children who were damaged by vaccines; he’s also doing so in a manner that is utterly ignorant of the special risks posed to African-Americans by vaccines.

It was Dr. William Thompson, a top CDC scientist, who blew the whistle on the CDC’s vaccine research fraud last year, going public with his confession that the CDC knowingly covered up data linking vaccines to an increased risk of autism in young African-American boys.

Except that the CDC study in question showed nothing of the sort, and there’s no credible evidence of a “cover up,” just the stress-induced claims of a single CDC psychologist whose claims have gained no traction and failed to be corroborated. This whole kerfuffle came to be known among antivaccinationists as the “CDC whistleblower”/#CDCWhistleblower saga. Let’s just put it this way: Andrew Wakefield glommed onto this fake controversy. That ought to tell you all you need to know.

Adams even invokes a statement by Mahatma Gandhi, who, if the reference is accurate, was apparently amazingly ignorant about vaccination, leading me to wonder: Where did Gandhi get his medical degree? (For a more skeptical take on Gandhi’s views on vaccines, check this out.) On a scientific basis, I care no more what Gandhi said about vaccines than what Mike Adams says, things like:

Vaccines, it turns out, are a form of medical violence against children for the simple reason that they provably cause extreme, permanent damage in many children year after year. But medical violence isn’t the only violence that Jimmy Kimmel now seems to be promoting… he’s also provoking individual acts of violence against so-called “anti-vaxxers” through his emotionally-charged, hate-filled rhetoric disguised as comedy.

Historically, it was the public tolerance of hate speech against African-Americans and gays that encouraged some people to engage in violent acts against them. After all, a group of people who are verbally belittled with derogatory and bigoted hate speech by public figures is an easy target for those with violent tendencies.

Oh, please, Mr. Adams. Pot. Kettle. Black. This nonsense is from a man who routinely refers to scientists as being the equivalent of “Nazis” (no, actually, he likened Monsanto and pro-GMO advocates explicitly to Nazis and strongly implied that it would be right to kill them for their “heinous crimes,” starting up and later shutting down a site called “Monsanto Collaborators”) and castigates science itself as evil, while ranting against big pharma. Hypocrisy, thy name is Mike Adams (among others). By Adams’ own definition, he engages in hate speech himself far beyond any accusation he can come up with against Jimmy Kimmel in his fevered imagination. It’s just another example of what a joke Mike Adams is. Unfortunately, he’s an influential joke.

Over the last few years, antivaccinationists have tried to liken themselves to traditionally oppressed or discriminated against groups, such as blacks, gays, or others in a transparent ploy to deflect criticism and paint it as “oppression.” Adams’ little screed takes that technique and hilariously puts it on steroids and cranks it up to 11. (Yes, when it comes to Adams, I like to shamelessly mix metaphors.) It’s over-the-top, even by Mike Adams’ standards.

For Mike Adams, it’s always, “Do as I say, not as I do.”

ADDENDUM: Jimmy Kimmel now has a followup. It’s hilarious, as Kimmel shows actual Tweets directed at him and lets antivaxers advocate for a “child’s right to choose”:

By Orac

Orac is the nom de blog of a humble surgeon/scientist who has an ego just big enough to delude himself that someone, somewhere might actually give a rodent's posterior about his copious verbal meanderings, but just barely small enough to admit to himself that few probably will. That surgeon is otherwise known as David Gorski.

That this particular surgeon has chosen his nom de blog based on a rather cranky and arrogant computer shaped like a clear box of blinking lights that he originally encountered when he became a fan of a 35 year old British SF television show whose special effects were renowned for their BBC/Doctor Who-style low budget look, but whose stories nonetheless resulted in some of the best, most innovative science fiction ever televised, should tell you nearly all that you need to know about Orac. (That, and the length of the preceding sentence.)

DISCLAIMER:: The various written meanderings here are the opinions of Orac and Orac alone, written on his own time. They should never be construed as representing the opinions of any other person or entity, especially Orac's cancer center, department of surgery, medical school, or university. Also note that Orac is nonpartisan; he is more than willing to criticize the statements of anyone, regardless of of political leanings, if that anyone advocates pseudoscience or quackery. Finally, medical commentary is not to be construed in any way as medical advice.

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126 replies on “Mike Adams attacks Jimmy Kimmel for “hate speech””

At least Mike Adams is known to all by his real name.
Perhaps “orac” has something to hide.
From this infantile polemic, that is what I would choose to believe.

Silly Tim. The answer is right here on this very blog for any who figure it out, and it’s not hard to figure out.

Yeah, it’s just what they do. They hide behind the children. If you challenge the crooks, quacks and charlatans, or the lying parents who enter their kids in clinical research in order to launder their legal claims into scientific “evidence”, they dodge behind the kids.

Even, as you point out in this case, no mention was even made of “vaccine damaged children”.

Mike Adams is a moron regardless of the name he chooses. Orac has a real identity known to anyone with an iota of curiosity and a google iq above 20.

I don’t think there are enough movie screens within 30 miles of me to match Mike Adams for projection.

I saw that clip over the weekend, on an economics/finance blog where I lurk. One thing the host of that blog and Orac have in common is a low tolerance for willful idiocy, which is what almost all of this anti-vax nonsense is. And no, it does not attack helpless children, only adults who are willfully endangering helpless children (who are too young to get the vaccine).

It would have been reasonable for a few years around the turn of the century (after Wakefield et al. published that infamous Lancet paper, but before the hypothesis was disproven and the paper shown to be fraudulent) for a layman to wonder if there was anything to the claims linking autism and the MMR vaccine. That window is now firmly shut. And people like Adams keep on running into that window like birds colliding with glass skyscrapers. Except that birds who survive that experience learn from it. Adams et al. proudly learn nothing.

Oh, I was so hoping Jimmy Kimmel’s hilarious “public service announcement” would find its way into a RI post. Even if it had to come with a side order of Mike Adams, you just made my day 🙂

@Tim #1 – I am an occasional visitor and despite that I have learned Orac’s “secret” identity long ago. But for the sake of an experiment I checked if there’s any clue about it on this very site. And lo and behold – you’re but one click from learning everything you need to know.

Hint – there’s a certain pseudonym highlighted in blue on this site. It’s a hypertext.

Oh, I was so hoping Jimmy Kimmel’s hilarious “public service announcement” would find its way into a RI post. Even if it had to come with a side order of Mike Adams, you just made my day 🙂

Then you should thank Mike Adams for his epically stupid rant about the Kimmel bit, because before that I hadn’t planned on doing anything more than Tweeting the video and posting it on my Facebook wall (both of which I did over the weekend).

At least Mike Adams is known to all by his real name.

And how do we know that Mike Adams is not a fictional character?

Oh yes, that’s right. Fictional characters have to be believable. Unlike Mike Adams.

P.S. Orac maintains another blog on which he uses his real name. He’s also on Twitter, again using his real name.

Why is it that people such as Mike Adams equate an opinion different from theirs as “hate speech” and “bigotry”? The more I delve into this whole quagmire of “alternative”, the more amazed I am at how intolerant, close-minded, and biased the advocates of alternative “medicine” are. And it’s not just the rot they’re expounding, it’s the arguments they use to expound the rot. They take such fantastic leaps of “logic”, that I’m left bemused by how the hell they got to B from A based on the data they’ve offered as “proof”.

So, yes. When you put yourself out there like that with the drivel you’re supporting; you can expect to get lampooned. But nowhere have I seen anyone critical of antivaxxers poke fun at the children they’ve put at risk.

Adams uses hyperbolic crap like this to protect his payment stream. He has a ready band of loons willing to believe pretty much anything he says, without evidence or even a modicum of critical thought. If he didn’t poke them now and again, they might look elsewhere for lies and crazy. Where would Mikey be then?

A few things…

– I think the reason these people eternally harp on *the children* ((shudder)) is because no one would have any interest in what they have to say otherwise.

Would anyone- even their friends and cohorts- ever read their book or posts if they weren’t about _ the children_?

They have very little to say.

– Yesterday, Null ranted about the same television spot as well ( tape is not yet up on PRN). Of course, he used his “science” to support his opposition to vaccines as he always does. Why didn’t Kimmel have a person with an opposing view in the skit, he asked cluelessly.

– Mikey is trying to drum up interest in his latest project, Food Rising: for the uninitiated, he has ‘invented’ a hydroponic system that will revolutionise food production in the Third World and 3rd grade classrooms everywhere by printing his very own innovative 3D printed parts. He’s getting people to donate money for the parts so he can send them to classrooms through his ‘charity’
Unfortunately, for him, the only way he can get his audience interested in his writing is if he does what he did re Kimmel.

– AND with great trepidation, fear and trembling even, I cautiously approach, the great and benevolent, *hostus with mostus*, our fearless and peerless leader, Orac…. both Dr and Mr,
as a grammar n-zi, to say ( Draconis protect me!)
because, dear Orac, correct me if I am wrong, but you said “on a role” when you meant “on a ROLL”-
although that may be a pun because Mikey is such a role playing idiot and has us rolling in the isles.. I mean aisles and he is ‘toast’ after Orac gets done with him.

I’m not a n-zi, really, I’m a liberal
So I apologise but I HAD to say it.

Since the American Lung Association points out that African American men have a 34% higher incidence of lung cancer than white men, pointing out the dangers of smoking is obviously racist hate speech.

It’s always educational and fun to read the comments on Mikey’s particularly looney posts. Here’s one:

“Was it really Kimmel’s opinion, or is it some of ABC’s sponsers? Big pharma controls the national news broadcasts on all networks.”

Evidently Jimmy Kimmel had a followup, both reading tweets, and having this skit below:

Last week on the show we got a group of real doctors together to do a public service announcement urging parents to vaccinate their kids. While a lot of people enjoyed it – it also made a small group of people unbelievably angry. Jimmy believes strongly in vaccination – but in the interest of fairness, we gave our community activist team Jack and Becky some air time to express their anti-vaccination views.

@SelenaWolf #10, I think that they *have* to be close minded. If they were open minded, then they would see that their ideas are mostly totally without basis. I have a good friend who is into ‘natural’ everything and constantly shuts me down if I even try to discuss vaccination (her youngest is 2, the same as mine). Sometimes she’s rude about it too. She’s lovely, but just will not entertain that she’s wrong about her pro-disease stance. It’s like any religion in that respect. I suppose that’s why they feel ‘persecuted’, because their inaccurate and unfounded faith is consistently proved wrong, and us ‘unbelievers’ don’t perceive that this is religious devotion rather than pseudoscientific anti-community quackery.

I’m bemused at the notion of entitled white people (like Mike Adams, or affluent anti-vax parents) claiming they are subject to discrimination of a piece with that experienced by people of colour and Jews over the centuries.

I mean, genuinely racist reactionary authoritarians (Limbaugh et al) often accuse people of “playing the race card” when they point out contemporary instances of racism or systematic discrimination, but I dare say Mike Adams really is “playing the race card”.

(You might say that “playing the race card” is something entitled white people do, either ironically à la Mike Adams, or, er, projection…ally (?) à la Limbaugh.)

And of course, I learn that Mikey’s latest charitable project is also a PRODUCT that you can buy at Natural News. He sells all of the ‘mini-farm’ parts, plant food and seeds.

Dehumanizing, violent hate speech anyone? A commenter right on Mike’s post about hate speech suggests that bigPharma wants to depopulate the world through vaccines, and they would agree with that if it were people like the Rothschild cartel, et al. who were the victims:

“They’re sentient beings, I wouldn’t go so far as to say human, but they do seem to be alive and children of their parents. They’re scum, for sure, but still deserving of our compassion. Maybe we say a prayer for them as we cut their throats.”

And nobody at NN bats an eye.

Maybe Tim couldn’t figure out Orac’s ID because it is SUPER secret. I used the concern troll language of all caps to help him out. Maybe he’ll be super serial about figuring it out now.

Calling autistic people damaged is HATE SPEECH DANG IT AUTISTIC PEOPLE ARE NOT DAMAGED! ARG! Hate natural nutwitlery.

Mike’s ( and the others’) continuous excoriation of vaccine advocates and SBM in general serves another less obvious purpose:
it DISTRACTS his loyal audience away from questioning his own motives as well as his yearly earnings.

SBM ( or governments, media et al) is populated by unbelievably corrupt, moey-hungry, devious, profiteering, psychopathic megalomaniacs who have absolutely no concern about the common person
whilst Mikey et al are humanitarians, spiritually enlightened sages free of prejudice and hate.

Since they have ALREADY called these tyrants out, how could they possibly be suspected of the same themselves?

Right. And he included racist images in his videos- e.g. the vaccinating nurse in ‘Vaccine Zombie’ stereotypes black women.

Tim: At least Mike Adams is known to all by his real name.

Well done, “Tim”! And thanks for your courage in fully identifying yourself. 😉

Kimmel wins the anti-antivax Blue Ribbon. Those bits speak to a wide audience by using ‘regular guy’ humor, hoist the loonies by their own petards, and push public perception of them toward the fringe where they belong. The references to Google, Facebook, and (especially) forwarded emails in contrast to the educations of the doctors, and the everyday examples of.doctors’ competency and trustworthiness (smoking, ER stitches, etc.) are spot on, and the doctors cast for the PSA are pretty much perfect.

The reactions from Adams et al. just double-down on the wacko – whipping up the base, keeping them in line, seeking to supporting the cash flow by raising the buying activity of the already-committed customer base. But they’re building an ever-higher wall between their little woo sub-culture and anyone with a whiff of “common sense”.

Denice [email protected]:

Mike’s ( and the others’) continuous excoriation of vaccine advocates and SBM in general serves another less obvious purpose: it DISTRACTS his loyal audience away from questioning his own motives as well as his yearly earnings.

Oh, you Pharma Shills with your filthy $$$$$$$$ fixations. Unlike you, noble Mr Adams ONLY takes payment in kitten smiles and sunbeams!!!!!

Selena Wolf: “But nowhere have I seen anyone critical of antivaxxers poke fun at the children they’ve put at risk.”

True. Even in the ‘Slap,’ (an American adaptation of the Australian show) the crunchy ultra-hippie parents are clearly portrayed as being the ones who turned their five-year-old into a spoiled monster. (The kid’s about four or five, and he’s still breastfeeding, so no way is he vaccinated.) The nice thing is that the parents are portrayed in an unrelentingly unsympathetic light- and this mirrors the way anti-vax parents are being treated by the press.

Jeliwobble: Get out while you still can. She may be a lovely person, but in short order, she’ll turn into an awful person who snarls about learning disabled children and anyone with a disability, runs a gluten-free house and ruins get-togethers for everyone.

By the way – RationalWiki’s article on NaturalNews is our latest front-page featured article!

Mike is so delighted that he redirects all hits with as a referrer to an advertising page. (So we had to run our reference links through something to remove that.)

RE: Second video. Never take a lollipop from an anti-vaxer. $10 says the lollipops had been pre-licked by a child with an active case of chicken pox. Natural immunity! FTW!

The most revolting thing is that anti-vaxers throw the terms “bullying” and “hate speech” around whenever someone expresses a viewpoint different than theirs. It’s such a smarmy, entitled worldview.

“Given that Adams brought race into this, you know where this is going”

Godwin’s law?

Nope too high profile to put that card on the table.

I was hoping that Kimmel would have brought up the Mike Adams article in his follow up. Either way, I have a new-found respect for Kimmel.
Also, the basis of Mike’s article is that Jimmy Kimmel is popularizing the term “anti-vaxxer”, but unless I heard wrong he never used that term. He said something like anti-vaccination people, which sounds way less like a pejorative and more like a stance anyways.
It was hard not to laugh at the part where Adams argued that Kimmel was advocating burning down the homes of anti vaccinationists, and suggesting the “parents of vaccine-injured children being beaten on the streets”. I must have missed where Kimmel mentioned that.

Paul — never underestimate the depths to which Adams will stoop. They have yet to be plumbed fully.

The Spudd is on the case, with a vaccine against stupidity.

“We are very excited about this, very hopeful,” says lead researcher Dr. James Kimmell. “The only thing we are concerned about is whether or not stupid people, i.e. anti-vaccers, will be willing to get the shot.”

The key difference between gay people or blacks and anti-vaxxers is that anti-vaxxers are harming society, including their own children. That would be equally true if it turned out that being anti-vax wasn’t a choice, but the result of some weird infection. (Religious bigotry doesn’t become acceptable when the people being slandered chose their religion as adults.)

Paul @38: We’ve seen Adams resort to argumentum ad Hitleram before. It’s not a stretch to imagine him going there.

There is a reason why, in many statements of Godwin’s law, the side that analogizes their opponents to Nazis is considered to have lost the debate. Mike Adams is a living embodiment of that reason.

Is anyone aware of any updates regarding the fallout from Adams’ Monsanto Collaborators “call to violence” from last July? I searched RI, Neurologica, and GLP but can’t find anything new. There was some talk of FBI involvement. It would be unfortunate if that episode passed too quietly into the memory hole.

Being a (mostly) stay-at-home mom who is too busy planning her next affair to consider giving my children diseases instead of immunity, I almost missed this. TV never happens, Facebook is a rare event and Twitter is entirely off the table; in short, RI is the short interlude of personal enrichment most days. Today, thanks to Mike Adams, my day is completely made. Space Trout @ #36 was the cherry on top. Thanks guys!

@ has:

We like dollars in all of their multi-national variety altho’ nothing is quite as weighty as the pound
but the euro, tho’ exceedingly crappy, will be accepted

@ Paul de Boer:

Adams has used quite n-zi-ish illustrations whenever he discussed Obama and Obama-care and often, when depicting doctors or SBM as well. These are sprinkled amongst his entire oeuvre so it’s hard to isolate them.

His so-called ‘cartoons’ are on a site called ‘Counterthink’ which is apropos since it doesn’t reflect anything that reasonably could be called ‘thought’.

Then, there are the videos of his uh… music.

“A commenter right on Mike’s post about hate speech suggests that bigPharma wants to depopulate the world through vaccines”

Yeah, that is always a good one. Before vaccines you got plagues that would wipe out as much as 50%, or more, or a population. Since vaccines, the number of the people on the planet has doubled like what 23 years, more or less. Yeah, all those chemicals and vaccines are doing such a hugely effective job of “depopulating” the planet. lol

Seriously, these people’s nonsense is why the phrase, “not even wrong”, was invented. Being wrong requires you still, at minimum, deal with facts and evidence in **this** universe, then, come to the wrong conclusion via poor logic. When you make up evidence, don’t have any, and fail to apply even the basics of logic to reaching a conclusion, you’re not just not right, you are, “not even wrong”, i.e., on the wrong bloody planet, in the wrong universe, and addressing a non-existent problem, etc.

@Dorit Reiss

Hard to say. The follow-up study is really only applicable to children who are capable of understanding English, so it’s not generalizable to non-verbal infants or to non-English speaking tots.

Who knows. The wee babes could cry from joy at being protected.

Wow, just wow!
The first few times I clicked on the link to the Health Deranger above I just got his “puff piece” on the 10 wonderful things that he and his ICP-MS had done for the world. That was hilarious, but clearly not what I was supposed to be seeing.
But a minute or so ago – after I’d read the whole of Orac’s column and most of the comments – the same link actually took me to the column by Mad Mike that our snarky blinking box of lights referred to. If Mad Mike hadn’t gone straight to the argumentum ad Hitlerum, he was getting perilously close. And most of the commenters agree with him – even the mildest criticism gets dogpiled.
One did ask if the photos were real, i.e. of “vaccine damage”. I believe it’s possible to search for photos on the Internet – perhaps some suitably skilled person can look and see where they originally came from.

PS: Jerry Coyne, of “Why Evolution is True”, has a post up this morning with the same pair of YouTube excerpts.

You know, I think I’ve made it in the world! Mike Adams is known for setting up redirects so that incoming traffic from certain sites goes straight to one of his ads or puff pieces. Maybe he’s done that with this site. If that’s the case, there’s only one thing to do: Google Cache. Make a downloadable PDF of the offending post and put a link to it in mine. 🙂

@ Derek Freyberg:

One of the ‘vaccine injured’ photos is of a young woman who died ( I’m not sure from what cause) whose mother wrote a book about her and is affiliated with AoA.

@ Denice:
It’s the photos of children with various cutaneous conditions that I particularly suspect are “borrowed”.

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To say nothing of:

The very premise that black people are systematically oppressed in modern-day America is a myth.

Obama takes to the airwaves and claims racism remains so bad in America that Trayvon Martin could have been him, implying that even the President could have been shot by an angry Latino who the brain-damaged media continues to somehow call “white.”

The plan, of course, is to foment so much contrived hatred that America collapses into a massive race war that distracts everybody from the monumental failures of bad government.

Detroit, a city largely run by Obama-supporting African-Americans, has collapsed into bankruptcy. The same kind of failed thinking that brought Detroit to its knees is now being unleashed by people like Al Sharpton — the Don King of race-baiting hatred — who is behind a new call for an economic boycott of Florida.

This idea, just like most of the racism industry’s ideas, make absolutely no sense.

Moral: All forms of bigotry and hatred and oppression are, a priori, aimed exclusively at Mike Adams, apparently.

(All quotes from:

I have decided that every time anyone disagrees with me about anything I am going to call it hate speech.

@Denice (57):
I did a little mousing around, and there’s a site called TinEye ( that does image searches without needing a program on your computer. I put the one of the body of the African-American child in, and it found it on an old CDC webpage – it’s eczema vaccinatum from smallpox (it also found the same photo on around ten other sites, including everyone’s friend and a bunch of other cranks).
So Mad Mike is using a smallpox eczema vaccinatum photo as his horror story when he talks about Dr. Thompson’s “confession” of vaccine-induced autism in black children.
I’m old enough to have had a couple of smallpox vaccinations – you had to have them for international travel. But according to the CDC, routine smallpox vaccination in the US ceased in 1972 and travel vaccination in 1982. So, unless that child came into contact with a recently-vaccinated individual – and I believe US military personnel are still vaccinated – this is an old photo.
So Mikey lies – but what’s new there?

The plan, of course, is to foment so much contrived hatred that America collapses into a massive race war that distracts everybody from the monumental failures of bad government.

I.e., Obama is just recycling Charles Manson. Sharp thinking.

The same kind of failed thinking that brought Detroit to its knees is now being unleashed by people like Al Sharpton — the Don King of race-baiting hatred — who is behind a new call for an economic boycott of Florida.

I guess the AoA brain trust just thought that he’d be a useful stage nіgger.

For a more skeptical take on Gandhi’s views on vaccines, check this out.

Unfortunately, the quotes from the original at the Stack Exchange link leave out some of the best parts, e.g.,

“We are all terribly afraid of the small-pox, and have very crude notions about it. We in India even worship it as a deity. In fact it is caused, just like other diseases, by the blood getting impure owing to some disorder of the bowels; and the poison that accumulates in the system is expelled in the form of small-pox. If this view is correct, then there is absolutely no need to be afraid of small-pox. If it were really a contagious disease, everyone should catch it by merely touching the patient; but this is not always the case.”

@Derek: You’re correct, the military still does smallpox vaccinations prior to deployments into certain regions (I had mine in 2004). They do a pretty good job of educating individuals on how to take care of it so nothing spreads beyond the vaccination site…but now and then you do find those special ones who play with the scab and go on to stick a finger in their eye, etc. You can’t fix stupid…

Ann, you wouldn’t happen to have the text of that page in your cache, would you? Adams now has a server-side redirect from it to his “Top 10 Scientific Achievements” page. Now I’m really curious to read it, if it is something that embarrasses even him.

Adams now has a server-side redirect from it to his “Top 10 Scientific Achievements” page.

Just delete the “#ixzz3TMiMAbnp” tracker.

@Derek Freyberg #55

You can do image searches as you described pretty easily through google. Google images has an option to copy or upload an image and return sites where that image exists. You should be able to save the images in question (right click -> save image) and upload them into a google image search.

Unfortunately, the quotes from the original at the Stack Exchange link leave out some of the best parts, e.g.,

Perhaps the Table of Contents of Gandhi’s book best conveys a sense of his profound, self-imposed ignorance of all post-medieval medical knowledge.

Chap. I. The Meaning of Health 9
Chap. II. The Human Body 11
Chap. III. Air 14
Chap. IV. Water 25
Chap. V. Food 29
Chap. VI. How much and how many times should we eat? 55
Chap. VII. Exercise 59
Chap. VIII. Dress 64
Chap. IX. Sexual Relations 69
Part II: Some Simple Treatments
Chap. I. Air Treatment 83
Chap. II. Water Cure 86
Chap. III. The Use of Earth 95
Chap. IV. Fever and its Cures 98
Chap. V. Constipation, Dysentery, etc. 101
Chap. VI. Contagious Diseases Smallpox 104
Chap. VII. Other Contagious Diseases 112
Chap. VIII. Maternity and Child-Birth 117
Chap. IX. Care of Child 121
Chap. X. Accidents —Drowning 127
Chap. XI. Do —Burns and Scalds 130
Chap. XII. Do —Snake Bite 132
Chap. XIII. Do —Scorpion-sting, etc.

You can do image searches as you described pretty easily through google.

Unless they’re spurning your browser. I have change the user agent to IE9 to get the little camera icon to appear.

I’m not a dermatologist, so this is purely opinion – but I am suspicious that one of Mike Adam’s ‘vaccine-damaged’ children pictured in his article is afflicted with itchyosis – which is a genetically-linked skin condition, not a vaccine injury. The fact that he posts disturbing pictures with no explanation of how vaccines caused the displayed injuries makes me think he has no reliable evidence at all.

Just delete the “#ixzz3TMiMAbnp” tracker.

In retrospect, ignore that (although deleting those strikes me as a good idea in general); the suggestion is the same as to copy and paste the link, which has nothing to do with a redirect based on referrer.

Daniel Welch @65: it’s still in the WayBackMachine. I saved a PDF of it too just in case. I didn’t read the whole thing but just reading his section headers it seems quite rank. Case in point “The myth of systematic oppression of blacks in America”. Wow.

In his newest article on how some vaccine-related We the People petition reached its signature goal despite the White House “censoring” and “oppressing” its signing, Mike Adams mentions that it was signed by “…Natural News readers and health freedom advocates who also forced Jimmy Kimmel to publicly respond to accusations that he thinks handicapped children who were permanently brain damaged by vaccines are a laughing matter to be used as the butt of his jokes attacking ‘anti-vaxxers.’ ”

I guess he was satisfied with the second Kimmel clip?

Pity the poor anti-vaxxers:
according to KIm ( AoA facebook today) they and their children ” have become the new lepers”.etc.

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