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GcMAF, autism “biomed,” and the apparent suicide of an autism quack

Three weeks ago, I did a post about how prone the antivaccine movement is to conspiracy theories. At that time, one example that I used was the then-very recent death of an autism quack and antivaccinationist (but I repeat myself) who’s been big in the “autism biomed” movement for a long time and a regular fixture at autism quackfests like Autism ONE for many years. I’m referring, of course, to Jeff Bradstreet, whose body was found in a river on June 19, dead from a gunshot wound to the chest that appeared to have been self-inflicted. It didn’t take long (less than a week) for the antivaccine movement to start speculating about conspiracies in which Bradstreet had been “bumped off” by big pharma, as represented by comments like these:

  • “It’s obvious that he was deliberately killed off because he spoke out against federal deceit, CDC, etc and was a life-saver for many like myself.”
  • “He did NOT kill himself! He was murdered for who he was speaking against, what he knew, and what he was doing about it. He was brilliant kind compassionate doctor with amazing abilities to heal. He was taken. Stopped. Silenced.”
  • “If this does not stink to high heaven I don’t know what does. A fisherman finds his body with a gunshot wound that appears to be a self inflicted. Just how the hell would they know that. Amazingly they happen to find the gun in the river. Wow that is some amazing detective work.”
  • “What a tragic loss of a beloved doctor. I pray the authorities get to the bottom of this story…it seems highly unlikely that a Christian man would shoot himself in thy chest and conveniently fall into a river.”

You get the idea. Meanwhile, others insinuated the existence of, basically, pharma hit squads. Not long afterward, Bradstreet’s family started a GoFundMe page to “find the truth.”

Let me just say one thing. I understand, to some extent, what the Bradstreet family is going through. My family has not escaped without having had one of its members commit suicide. Although it was someone I wasn’t particularly close to, he was very close to close family members. So I understand better than most the pain they are going through. They have my sympathy.

That being said, it appears that more information is coming out about what happened in the days leading to Bradstreet’s death. It’s even started to filter out to major media outlets, as in this story published yesterday in the Washington Post, The mysterious death of a doctor who peddled autism ‘cures’ to thousands:

James Jeffrey Bradstreet was one of the world’s most famous — or infamous — physicians. He believed vaccines caused autism. He even testified so before Congress. Twice.

But he didn’t just rail against Big Pharma. He also tried to beat it.

Bradstreet offered thousands of autism patients around the globe controversial treatments. He claimed he could effectively cure kids of their autism, cancer and other maladies simply by injecting them with protein shots.

When Bradstreet’s body was found last month in the Rocky Broad River in mountainous North Carolina with a bullet wound to the chest, therefore, friends, family members and patients pointed fingers at drug corporations. The FDA. Anyone but Bradstreet.

“He did not kill himself!” one patient’s parent wrote online.

“May God have vengeance quickly on the evil doers who murdered him!” wrote another.

From this story, we also learn that Bradstreet’s family had quickly raised $33,000 to investigate his death and had used the money to hire private investigators. I rather suspect that the conspiracy theories surrounding his death will never die. They’ll be like John F. Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories in that they’ll never die, although they will only be known to the dark underbelly of the antivaccine movement and autism quackery.

Conspiracy theories aside, we’re finally learning what appears to be the event that might have pushed Bradstreet to kill himself. It turns out that the day before he apparently killed himself, his office was the target of a federal search warrant in relationship to his use of an unapproved drug to treat autism, GcMAF. Readers were kind enough to supply me with a copy of the search warrant. Basically, the warrant gave permission to search the Bradstreet Wellness Center in Buford, GA for “records, documents and items” related to:

  • All Globulin component Macrophage Activating Factor (GCMAF), GC-Globulin, and/or any other products or component substances thereof that constitute misbranded drugs under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
  • All records, in whatever for, associated with or pertaining to the acquisition, possession, distribution of unapproved drugs, prescriptions, and/or health care products. The records to be seized include those related to the brokering, ordering, purchasing, shipping, sale, and distribution of any drugs, including business journal and ledgers; tax records, and related work papers; purchase and sales records; communications; bank and financial records; shipment/transport records; supplier and customer records; regulatory compliance records and communications with federal, state, and local authorities; and any unopened mail addressed to or from the companies mentioned therein.

The warrant also authorized authorities to search for “all books, records, and documents” identifying current and former employees, any and all electronic, digital, and paper records relating to GcMAF, computers and peripherals, financial records, and more. You get the idea. As the news story I referenced above put it, whether or not any doubt remains over whether Bradstreet did indeed commit suicide, it’s clear that his use of dubious autism treatments had finally caught up with him after all these years. He was definitely in the FDA’s sights for his autism quackery. Strangely enough (to me) and frustratingly, it was not all his previous quackery that finally led to what one could only have hoped, had Bradstreet not killed himself, the beginning of the end of his empire of quackery and his taking up residence in a federal penitentiary. Remember, this is a guy who peddled hyperbaric oxygen chambers, chelation therapy, bogus stem cell treatments, hormone injections, secretin, and just about every sort of “autism biomed” quackery you can imagine, and then some. Let’s just put it this way. Bradstreet has in the past advocated exorcism to treat autism, although in the Autism Omnibus hearing, where he appeared as an expert witness for the complainants, he denied ever having performed exorcisms for autism. Yet it was GcMAF that finally led to the federal government taking substantive action.

So what is GcMAF? It’s a protein that is found normally in the blood of healthy people. It is an immunomodulatory protein, in that its activity affects the function of the immune system. The glycoprotein (a protein with sugar molecules attached) GcMAF results from sequential deglycosylation of the vitamin D-binding protein (the Gc protein), and the resulting protein is felt to be a macrophage activating factor (MAF). MAFs are a class of protein known as a lymphokine, and they regulate the expression of antigens on the surface of macrophages. One of their functions is to “activate” macrophages, which can under the proper circumstances attack cancer cells. Of note, the production of GcMAF can be blocked by an enzyme called Nagalase (alpha-N-acetylgalactosaminidase), produced by many cancers, which led to its first incarnation in quackery, as a “cure” for many cancers by Bill Sardi (remember him?) and Timothy Hubbell based on dubious science and a clinical trial that didn’t show what its proponents claimed it did and was later retracted.

Bradstreet was a true believer in GcMAF as a cure for autism. For instance, check out this video of him promoting GcMAF as a cure for autism at the Treating Autism Conference at Brunel University in 2012:

He starts out as saying he’s been studying HIV and that’s what connected him up with GcMAF, claiming that he noted elevated Nagalase activity in autistic children, which presumably results in lowered GcMAF levels. This resulted in a paper based on 40 autistic children that he published in Autism Insights in which he claimed to have found elevated Nagalase levels in autistic children that were reduced by injecting GcMAF. Of course, one wonders why injecting more substrate would lower Nagalase levels, given that the usual response of the body to more substrate for an enzyme is to increase the activity of the enzyme in order to take care of the additional substrate. Be that as it may, it’s possible that GcMAF injections could decrease Nagalase levels if they were pathologically elevated; it just doesn’t seem particularly plausible. What GcMAF injections could theoretically do is simply bypass the activity of Nagalase (which, remember, blocks the production of GcMAF) and lead to increased GcMAF levels. Be that as it may, Bradstreet also claimed improvement in autistic symptoms. Of course, this was a single-arm uncontrolled study; so it’s not particularly compelling evidence. It was also published in what was before it was discontinued in essence a vanity journal whose editorial board was packed with autism quacks, including Andrew Wakefield, Bryan Jepson, and Arthur Krigsman.

Another study with which Bradstreet was involved in claimed that GcMAF could normalize abnormal gene expression in the endocannabinoid system of autistic children, which, of course, links his work with claims made by some in the “autism biomed” movement that medical marijuana treats autism. Of course, this was an unrandomized, unblinded study (other than one person carrying out a lab test, specifically Ki67-ir profiles.

Based on highly dubious science and clinical data, Bradstreet was an enthusiastic backer of GcMAF, working with David Noakes, the head of Immuno Biotech:

During the same U.K. trip, Bradstreet and Noakes made what was essentially a promotional video for Immuno Biotech and its brand of GcMAF, called First Immune.

“I’m here with Dr. Jeffrey Bradstreet from the U.S.A., the autism expert in the First Immune GcMAF laboratories,” Noakes said on camera. “Dr. Bradstreet has been using our GcMAF for 18 months and we’d like to thank you for, I think you’ve treated 900 children now?”

“Not just children,” Bradstreet boasted. “So the spectrum of my patients with autism ranges from somewhere around 18 months to goodness, somewhere around close to 40. So we’ve treated many adults with autism as well as chronic fatigue patients, cancer patients. So we’ve found application for a fairly broad number of disorders for the product.”

And:

“Dr. Jeffrey Bradstreet has now treated over 2,000 autistic children with GcMAF and the results are well established,” according to one of Noakes’s Web sites. “85% improve, if only a little, and of them 15% have their autism eradicated. In all 3,000 children have been treated with GcMAF with similar results.”

Internet chatrooms reveal how desperate parents were drawn to these promises like moths to a flame.

The discussion forum on Autism Web shows hundreds of parents of autistic children seeking out alternative methods of treating, or even “curing,” their kids.

“We are doing GcMAF injections through Bradstreet,” began one thread in August of 2011. “It has been 5 weeks. Each shot is $90 so I’m hoping we will see something big soon. I would love to hear from anyone else that has been doing the treatment for longer than us.”

Dozens responded. The replies varied from wary to ecstatic.

Of course, lots of quack treatments for autism and other conditions have enthusiastic testimonials to back them up. What’s seen less commonly are the negative testimonials, and Bradstreet has those:

“We have completed 20 shots of GcMAF so far. I am still waiting for the wow that everyone talks about,” one person wrote. Even worse, they described side effects including “crying and pains in his chest and stomach at least for first 3 days after the shot.”

“We are doing GcMAF injections. I have not seen any gains at all,” another person wrote. “I have seen the worse behaviors and tantrums. So after spending $1,300 for no gains and living in hell I am done with this.”

Others described nasty viral or bacterial infections which flared up after starting their kids on GcMAF.

“It came to a point where we couldn’t tolerate it any more,” an angry parent wrote.

The problems with Bradstreet’s quackery led an Irish woman named Fiona O’Leary to begin investigating First Immune and complaining to UK health authorities. her efforts led the authorities to act. The First Immune GcMAF production facility in the UK was raided by British health authorities earlier this year. They found that the facility did not meet Good Manufacturing Practice (GMP) standards and expressed concerns over the sterility of the medicine being produced and the equipment being used, leading to further concerns that the product could well be contaminated. More than 10,000 vials of GcMAF were seized and production was halted.

After O’Leary had complained to the FDA as well, four months later on June 18, the day before Bradstreet killed himself, the feds showed up at Bradstreet’s Buford, GA clinic, search warrant in hand. Had he been convicted Bradstreet could have faced up to 20 years in prison. Of course, we all know from a previous autism quackery conviction that Bradstreet would probably never have been jailed that long, given that sentences in these discussions are usually the maximum possible and seldom actually given under federal sentencing guidelines, but to see him in jail would have been sweet indeed, even if it were only for a couple of years. Antivaccinationists know that, and has become a target of their wrath, with accusations of “murder” and not having a soul.

In any case, Bradstreet fled for North Carolina, and drove three hours northeast to Lake Lure, NC, where he checked into a hotel. There he learned that a First Immune clinic run by Noakes had been shut down in an investigation of five deaths associated with GcMAF treatments. In fairness, it’s not clear whether the deaths were due to GcMAF or just terminal patients dying, but Swiss officials were on the trail as well. Hours after learning of this, Bradford disappeared. He wasn’t seen alive again. Although the investigation is not complete, authorities are satisfied that Bradstreet had committed suicide.

Yet the conspiracy theories continue:

“I know it was murder,” the Immuno Biotech CEO said. “Dr. Bradstreet stated what we all know: that the MMR vaccine causes autism,” repeating a claim often wielded by anti-vaccine activists that’s been totally debunked. “And he was an expert witness in many court cases in the U.S.A. providing testimony to that effect. MMR is a multibillion dollar vaccine and this [GcMFA] hurts the profits of the MMR drug companies and that is why he was killed.”

In a half-hour phone interview, Noakes told The Post that he was convinced a vaccine company killed Bradstreet to protect its profits from the wonder “cure” that is GcMFA.

“He was raided by the FDA the day before his murder so the murder is now dressed up to look like suicide,” Noakes claimed.

“Why would a doctor use a gun?” he continued. “A doctor wouldn’t use a gun at all. He’d use barbiturates or a cocktail of drugs which are easily available to him and take no effort.”

While it’s true that doctors who kill themselves are indeed more than twice as likely to use self-poisoning with drugs or other substances than the general population, they’re actually just as likely to use firearms, even in a population that doesn’t have many guns. In the gun-rich US, firearms are the most common method of physician suicide, being the method of nearly half of physician suicides and only slightly less common than in the general population. So all the incredulous dismissals of the conclusion that Bradstreet killed himself based on the belief that Bradstreet couldn’t have possibly killed himself with a gun because he’s a doctor and doctors don’t kill themselves that way are complete nonsense based on misinformation about physician suicide. To cast doubt on suicide as a cause of Bradstreet’s death will require a lot more than a mistaken belief that doctors don’t kill themselves with firearms, because they do.

In reality, it’s clear that Jeff Bradstreets many years of applying his quackery to autistic children had finally—finally—caught up with him. I’m actually sorry that he killed himself, both for the pain it caused his family, but also because it means that Bradstreet ultimately escaped justice. It means he will never face a judge and jury for the many years he victimized autistic children with a wide variety of quackery. That saddens me, but I can still hope that Bradstreet’s co-conspirators face the justice he eluded.

By Orac

Orac is the nom de blog of a humble surgeon/scientist who has an ego just big enough to delude himself that someone, somewhere might actually give a rodent's posterior about his copious verbal meanderings, but just barely small enough to admit to himself that few probably will. That surgeon is otherwise known as David Gorski.

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190 replies on “GcMAF, autism “biomed,” and the apparent suicide of an autism quack”

Perhaps I’m just extra jaded or in a bad mood this morning but:

“Bradstreet was a true believer in GcMAF as a cure for autism. ”

Are we sure of this? I wonder if he damn well knew it was all fraud, but like Dr Oz DGAF as along as the money was rolling in.

One wonders if it was an attack of conscience over his sins as opposed to someone feeling they have been persecuted wrongly, a la a Buddy Dwyer situation…

Why would some “hit team” kill him if he was about to go to jail for a long, long, long time?

Oh, I get it…there were multiple groups “out to get him”. Yeah, right.

@ #2

He was in possession of information that Big Pharma didn’t want revealed and brought to the public’s attention during a legal proceeding?

Just have to connect the dots, lol.

If this guy had left a video in which he stated his reason for suicide, e.g., was afraid of going to the crowbar hotel, and then shot himself on camera, some people would still shout conspiracy.

#2 Chris Hickie
It can be like herding cats to coordinate a decent set of multiple conspiracies. And an international one like this with at least three countries involved is amazingly complicated. The time differences alone make it a problem. Add in inter-agency competition and it’s a nightmare. It’s a wonder the hit squad didn’t find themselves in the wrong Georgia.

For those who read a bit of French (and even if you don’t come to think of it, look at the first paragaph) the Swiss report in 24 Heures (http://www.24heures.ch/vaud-regions/lausanne-region/clinique-privee-vaudoise-enquete-penale-cinq-morts/story/12349881) is a delight. I am not sure but I think the only thing that GcMAF did not cure was athlete’s foot.

For any

So all the incredulous dismissals of the conclusion that Bradstreet killed himself based on the belief that Bradstreet couldn’t have possibly killed himself with a gun because he’s a doctor and doctors don’t kill themselves that way are complete nonsense based on misinformation about physician suicide

Orac pointed out a study that showed that even in the England and Wales, where firearms are much less readily available than they are in, say, the American South, physicians do use firearms to commit suicide.

Although anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists have questioned whether Bradstreet’s death could be a suicide since it involved a firearm, a study of physician suicide here in the US found “For physicians, firearms were the most common method [of suicide] (48%), followed by poisoning (23.5%), blunt trauma (14.5%), and asphyxia which included hanging (14%).”

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3549025/

Yep. That’s an even better study than mine; I used mine because, as you point out, firearms are less common in England and Wales. I’ll add it.

Fiona O’Leary is an amazing woman, who has autistic children and was diagnosed with Asperger’s herself a few years ago. Her fight against autism biomed quackery is bearing fruit. I’m sorry that this man was such a coward that he committed suicide.

Anyone interested in observing how conspiracy theories evolve should consult AoA and Autism Investigated which both included posts about Bradstreet wherein commenters speculated about his death and its association to OTHER recent deaths of alt med practitioners.

It’s actually funny that Noakes claims that “Big Pharma” is against GcMAF because it reduces the MMR profits…If the non-sense about MMR and autism were true, then GcMAF producers would actually have better profits treating so-called MMR-produced diseases. Their arguments are contradicting themselves… Meanwhile, “Big Pharma” would have jumped on GcMAF straight away.

EB:
Not conscience, not feelings of persecution…
Just facing fate-worse-than-death for whatever reason… Not being able to see bad outcomes as within your ability to change…

With the Feds closing in – regardless of whether he felt guilt or righteousness – Bradstreet could probably imagine only loss of status, humiliation, and physical subjugation as he moved through the legal system. He’d no longer be the brave maverick MD, savior of children, and the ray of hope for the terminally ill, just another orange-clad prisoner ducking cameras on a perp walk. I’d guess the psychology of an anti-vax hero figure could rest on a fairly shaky form of messianic ego. Maybe needing to be savior for some compensatory function, but not totally and unshakably convinced, needing a continued spotlight to bask in at Autism One, biotech scam shill videos, etc. For all we know, other factors in his life could have been chipping at his foundation, and the arrest warrant was just the tipping-point straw. Whatever they may be saying on AoA, you’d have to guess that with SB277 signed into law know at some level that they’ve lost The Big One. Bradstreet could have been depressed about that.

Anyway, just one element of irrationality in the CTs is the concept that a suicidal MD would be rational enough to choose a barbituate overdose to a gun – trust me, when you’ve decided to off yourself, your rationality is pretty spotty…

The person who hasn’t been mentioned (or seemingly even existent) in the Bradstreet family internet chatter is Bradstreet’s widow, while his former wife Lori is prominent in the comments (including her own) on fb and gofundme. A video memorial which included many pictures of Bradstreet with his (now) widow and stepson was posted to the Remembering Dr. Bradstreet fb page, along with an explanation that American Pie was his favorite song, but then the video was seemingly removed from the fb page. The memorial video that disappeared from the Remembering fb page is still on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezjXZerDNtY

Following the removal of the vid from fb, posts praising Bradstreet’s former wife and posts denying “rumors” of estrangement within the Bradstreet family appeared. It’s very odd — makes one wonder what his widow has told authorities and how it aligns with the conspiracy theory being used to generate donations.

The other thing is, if you are determined to kill yourself, a heart shot is the easiest way. Brain shot…generally fatal but if your hand slips, you may just end up a vegetable for the rest of your life. Medical means (Tylenol, Aspirin, Barbiturates) are by no means an immediate certainty. Tylenol is a nasty death, as is aspirin, besides someone could break in and save your life.

Though it’s interesting to see the rash of deaths listed…makes you wonder how interconnected they were and how afraid.

Anyway, just one element of irrationality in the CTs is the concept that a suicidal MD would be rational enough to choose a barbituate overdose to a gun – trust me, when you’ve decided to off yourself, your rationality is pretty spotty…

It’s also about what’s available. Most doctors, other than anesthesiologists, don’t have access to narcotics, barbiturates, etc, nearly as easy as the lay public thinks they do. For one thing, prescribing such drugs to oneself would certainly raise eyebrows at the pharmacy, and a doc is not likely to order a supply for his office unless he does procedures for which conscious sedation is indicated. Also, docs who do need such drugs for conscious sedation have to have all the state and federal regulatory licenses, which takes time. In other words, Bradstreet could have gotten the drugs, but it would have taken time. If you want to kill yourself now as a doc, unless you’re an anesthesiologist or do conscious sedation in your office, getting the drugs takes too long.

Tylenol is a nasty death

Tylenol is indeed particularly nasty because it usually doesn’t kill you right off the bat. What often happens is that you recover from the acute poisoning, but your liver has take a fatal hit, leading to to a nasty death from liver failure weeks later, unless you get a transplant.

Having been friends with a dentist who took his own life after a DUI, I understand how shame can affect someone. The choice of a gun isn’t surprising as many choose it for its lethality.

That people will spin things towards their own point of view isn’t surprising either, especially in this case where the conspiracy theories are all one sided [like here where Dr. Bradstreet is a victim as opposed to something like ex-military as police officers – where some say the conspiracy is to hire them so police become more militarized and others that they are not hired because they have knowledge to fight the gov’t]. So, if I wanted to invent a conspiracy I could just as easily craft one about the people making money off of his and others fake treatments as being responsible for the deaths.

I surfaced an article here about the other missing/dead alternative med doctors. Although it is not a well written article, it was the least speculative of the few I found and it contained a list of deaths and timelines in one place. I saw no reason to warn those here of what speculation it did indulge in because it is quite obvious in the piece in addition to not being the way way this blog rolls.

But I do think it is useful to look for a pattern in what appears to be a “cluster” of deaths if for no other reason than to try to figure out the identified murders that did occur.

The choice of a gun isn’t surprising as many choose it for its lethality.

Yeah, firearms are going to have a pretty strong showing in completed suicides due to their lethality. Of the 5 (I think) people I know who’ve committed suicide so far, 3 were with a gun, one was an OD, and one was with helium.

Aspirin, actually, is kind of hard to kill yourself with, going by anecdotal experience; a couple people I know attempted suicide by aspirin as teenagers. Tylenol, as Orac noted, is much nastier.

My, but this conversation is a bit dark!

Imagine what you could come up with if you tracked any field of employment nation-wide for over a month. “Fourth vet dies this month! Anti-rabies vaccine activists eyed carefully!”

Thanks to Orac for this update.

I’ve been following the case of one of the other “holistic” docs supposedly murdered by the Pharma Mafia (Teresa Sievers), and it is hard to tell what the local authorities are worse at, investigation or media management. Apparently there has still not been any officially confirmation of manner of homicide weeks after the killing (reportedly she was struck with a hammer), and the Lee County sheriff now says there is more evidence in the case than he’s ever seen before.

I conclude from that that he and his detectives are totally confused (and probably overwhelmed with tips from nutbars).

Yeah, I’ve had a few friends commit suicide or attempt to do so. One friend, a lab tech, did use the Tylenol method. She knew exactly what she was doing, and died about 5 days later. So I know about that one very well.

Yeah, I’ve had a few friends commit suicide or attempt to do so.

Yeah, starting with my dad (when I was 11!) I’ve become far too familiar with the phenomenon, including having attempted a couple of times myself. (I’m really bad at it.)

I’d like to lodge a complaint with the author of this story I’m stuck in, actually, that the theme is getting a little hackneyed and a lighter hand, in general, I think, is called for.

When I was in AP Psychology class we were told there is no good way to commit suicide. I wasn’t about to take that at face value. A classmate and I set upon trying to figure one out. Not because we had any intention of committing suicide but more of a challenge to such a definitive statement. We ran through any number of scenarios but there was always a flaw. Many years later while on the subject in a random conversation, I ran this past a friend and told her we spent a whole year at it and never did find a good way. She replied with great clarity “That’s because there isn’t supposed to be one”.

I’m not knowledgeable about the circumstances surrounding an “alternative” cluster of death, but one will probably never see their own treatments questioned as a contributing cause.

Bradstreet has (was?) treated himself and his widow with stem cells. His wife claimed a nearly instant cure of her severe anxiety and depression, as well as an improved marriage. All children with autism who were treated improved. Really a silly shameless (and stepfordish) promotional video from a stem cell clinic in Kiev featuring them both:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmBZVPcZoJ4

She replied with great clarity “That’s because there isn’t supposed to be one”.

I dunno, the helium method seems pretty effective and painless; plus you get to say your last words in that funny helium voice. L-rd knows that death as a physiological process is never graceful, though, and eventually someone’s going to find your body.

@ JP:

I know that this might sound rather cavalier but why don’t you write about ALL of it? You have talent and perhaps the Muse will smile upon you if you dedicate yourself to the task of explanation of these horrors

…..True story: I once had to recite an entire poem publicly – in French yet- in which I portrayed the Muse who was really getting disgusted with her chosen artist because he wasn’t producing enough… for a performance artist’s presentation…

re writing up misery..
my friend who lost a family member to terrorism long ago has been writing about its aftermath partially as therapy ( which I edit, read, etc) and has just learned that a crappy writer somewhere is writing about the event, her family and quoting them from various sources WITHOUT any permission..
They are not happy at all.

It is interesting that “they” are targeting the little-known holistic/anti-vaccine doctors while the well-known and influential ones (Mercola, Wakefield, Wakefield and such) continue to make public appearances and statements.

It is also interesting that quacks like Erin Elizabeth at Health Nut News repeatedly says how scared she is for her life and that of Joe Mercola, the whole time maintaining a very public profile, blogging about the deaths of these doctors. If she was truly scared, wouldn’t she go into hiding?

Ok, I found your macabre humor about the squeaky voice somewhat funny but the method is not fool proof and do you really want to have possible brain damage for the rest of your life if it fails and you decide you want to live after all?

Speaking to the Tylenol exit, it has to be one of the worst I have ever seen. Working in a hospital there were at least one if not more in our ICU of those who had attempted suicide for every single month for the entire 12 years I worked there. I only know of one person to ever have died after receiving treatment and he was the one who wanted to live after he regained consciousness. Also note the treatments given are nasty (drinking acetylcysteine and/or activated charcoal), and G-d only knows what type of liver damage you’ll have to live with for the rest of your life.

Moral of the story: Don’t try this home, at work, on vacation or anywhere – with any method.

JP, my comment #33 was for you in case you haven’t figured that out.

Also, I agree with Denice Walter about the writing. It is almost universally helpful, and you are an exceptional writer.

@Denice:

Yeah, I’ve heard that suggestion a couple of times over the past year or two; most memorably at like 5 in the morning a year or so ago, standing on my balcony drinking bourbon with my Bosnian BFF. “You’ve gotta write this stuff down, man.”

@NaT:

Oh, I really was just joking; my humor can be pitch black at times, sorry about that. I’m sane enough right now during the day to keep any sort of means out of my apartment so I don’t have them at night. It’s also pretty clear that I suck at these things, and I’m aware that a seriously botched attempt could result in a worse fate than the one I’m already living. To quote Dorothy Parker (a soul sister of mine):

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren’t lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

^ Not to mention that I have people relying on me at the moment, like a friend who just had a death in the family and is in the middle of packing up 10 years of her life to move to another state for a lecturing job. Technically I still owe her like 30 hours of RA work, too, so I’ve been pressed into service to take care of all the library books, scan important parts, organize documents, etc.

It is interesting that “they” are targeting the little-known holistic/anti-vaccine doctors while the well-known and influential ones (Mercola, Wakefield, Wakefield and such) continue to make public appearances and statements.

I know! It’s the most incompetent murder conspiracy ever!

Here’s a summary of the French-language article about the Swiss investigation. It concerns a clinic in Bussigny, Switzerland (Canton Vaud), run by First Immune, David Noakes’s operation. (The sidebar notes that another First Immune clinic in Brussels was the first Noakes business to fall under investigation; he originally was headquartered there, but moved to Guernesey, and later was shut down in the UK as well.) The clinic advertised itself chiefly for treating cancer (promising a remission of terminal cancer in as little as a week!) but also everything else from AIDS to hepatitis and cirrhosis to allergies and depression. In late 2014, 5 terminal cancer patients died at CHUV (the Vaud University Hospital). All were foreign nationals who had come to the First Immune clinic for treatment. The hospital found indications that they had been incorrectly treated. They are not saying anything more specific than that while the investigation is in progress, but whatever the evidence was that they gathered, it was enough to convince the médecin cantonal (chief medical authority for the canton) to lift patient privacy and refer the cases to law enforcement. Once his attention was drawn to the clinic, the médecin cantonal also decided to file charges of practicing unlicensed medicine and selling an unauthorized drug, GcMAF; he admitted that because First Immune had never applied for a license to practice medicine in Switzerland, the clinic “didn’t exist for us and we didn’t really know what was going on there.” Once law enforcement was brought into the case, they raided the clinic in March of 2015 and seized all of the equipment. The investigation is still ongoing and actual charges have not yet been filed.

JP, love the quote! Says it a lot better than my wordiness.

When you’re done helping your friend, would you help here? I am moving back to my college town with an 11 year accumulation of stuff which includes a lot of paperwork that I want to scan into the computer so i will never have to move it again unless it is from one flash drive to another.

Of course, I am just joking as I live across the country from you but you did give me a smile thinking about someone else involved in the same chores. Best wishes with it.

IIRC, this is the guy whose death conspiracy theorists tried to link to the capture of the Charleston church murderer that same week, never mind that the locations are about 80 km apart. I’m not surprised that his family doesn’t want to believe it’s suicide; down that road lie many “was there something I could have done?” recriminations. But if you aren’t one of his immediate family, why would the fact that he is the target of a federal probe not be sufficient? One of my relatives has worked with his local US Attorney’s office, and from him I know that if the feds have made you the target of a criminal probe, they are at least 99% sure they can get a conviction. It’s not so farfetched for a doctor to think that federal prison is a fate worse than death–maybe a Club Fed type prison wouldn’t be, but Supermax would.

“I know! It’s the most incompetent murder conspiracy ever!”

They’re just throwing you off the trail. Every conspirator is brilliant. Or, it could always be a cabal of Mercola, Wakefield & Co. trying to lessen the competition.

Scary that I think like this, isn’t it?

There’s something bugging me with this paragraph:

“I know it was murder,” the Immuno Biotech CEO said. “Dr. Bradstreet stated what we all know: that the MMR vaccine causes autism,” repeating a claim often wielded by anti-vaccine activists that’s been totally debunked. “And he was an expert witness in many court cases in the U.S.A. providing testimony to that effect. MMR is a multibillion dollar vaccine and this [GcMAF] hurts the profits of the MMR drug companies and that is why he was killed.”

That doesn’t make any sense! How could GcMAF hurt the profits of MMR vaccine sales? Are these products substitutes? Do they claim that GcMAF cures autism AND MMR? Do children with autism need more MMR vaccines and, thus, would GcMAF cause the demand for it to decrease?

Uh oh. Sorry. I see Orac was well ahead of me on everything. This is what I get for not carefully reading the entire thread because of my slow internet connection due to the Jade Helm internet shut-down conspiratorial plan going on right now (yes, I’m kidding).

If there is something to the doctor’s deaths, I’ll wait for the Forensic Files episode. In any event, I feel for the grieving, and I hope that this doesn’t further entrench those who already feel they are under siege.

@ JP:

You have to do something about those nights!
I have ideas.

Well, if you DON’T bring someone home with you:
( that can work)
at least keep the place well-lit and have either a radio, television, computer going all the time-
it’s good to hear a human voice when you’re alone even if it just is the news.
Have projects to work on that you can pick up and put down.
( I’m in the midst of writing something… for a month)
Have an exercise regime ( videos? computer?)
Music.
Movies.
And certainly there’s always someone around RI despite the hour and timezone.

#9, let’s not refer to people who take their own lives as cowards. Bradstreet might have been a lot of things, including a coward, but committing suicide doesn’t automatically make you one.

JP, I’m sorry about your Dad. My Dad committed suicide as well. He was a physician. He was terminally ill and wanted to go on his own terms, minus the pain. No coward soul was his…

@Delphine:

It was a confluence of things with my dad, some of which I actually didn’t know about until a couple of years ago, and which would have been nice to know when I was going through it. People don’t tell 11 year olds things, though, and on top of that I had a tendency to sort of blend into the wall at that age, which people find hard to believe now. So you can imagine all the things I had in my head for years. I honestly think he thought everyone would be better off without him, which was REALLY not the case.

BUT BUT BUT…

the targetted ones continue to make public appearances because they are after all, BRAVE mavericks- fearless in the face of danger, intrepid in their truth tellingness.

Do they buckle; do they quake in terror?
No no no! They stand up to oppression.

As Gary Null tells it:
the black ops fatty who confessed his assignment to him TOLD him to be careful, watch out for dark alleys, cars with malfunctioning brakes and shady ladies.. “You’re on the hit list”
but did he slink off, away from the public eye to live in safety?
Never! He became MORE public and even challenged his would-be assassins.
He reported upon their every malfeasance: each crime and misdemeanor was investigated and PUBLISHED!

@Denice:

Yeah, the only thing is that I’m supposed to be trying to get more sleep, and better sleep. I had been having a few drinks most nights and able to fall asleep, but then waking up, which I guess is common and also alcohol makes your sleep garbage. But now I can’t fall asleep. If I can’t fall asleep for too long, though, I’ve been giving up and getting up and doing various things. I’m not sure if this productive or counterproductive.

One thing that does sometimes help with falling asleep – besides the Trazodone I have, which I think helps some but often enough it doesn’t work – is to listen to talk radio (BBC, NPR) or podcasts. It’s something that my brain focuses on enough to quiet my own ruminations, but it’s not a bright TV screen or anything keeping me up.

My parents are pharmacists and they’ve known 5 or 6 pharmacists who’ve committed suicide, only one used drugs and she died in the hospital pharmacy on the night shift. Of the others 2 used fire arms, 2 hung themselves and one was suspected since he drove directly into a bridge abutment.

Am I right in thinking that this…

The blood plasma starting material being used to make this drug stated “Not to be administered to humans or used in any drug products”.

…means that the plasma they were using wasn’t screened for HIV, hepatitis, or anything else?

Because if so, how awful.

Thanks for the offer but I don’t need to email you privately, Dr. Jay. I just need to know that you admit that you f&cked up. The manner in which you f&cked up is a matter of record. Maybe in hindsight, kicking Christine Maggiore in her entitled “but my kid doesn’t do daycare/eat Lunchables!” ass would have made for a good start.

And thanks for your advice on night terrors. That actually makes sense, given that from what I’ve read thus far, it’s a transition from sleep cycle thing. Right now our solution on the 1-2 nights a week this happens is to bring her into bed with us. I am in favour of bedsharing if it’s done safely but she hasn’t slept with us in 2 years and I am done with that stage of my life. And besides, I can’t get back to sleep. And it’s upsetting for my husband, though not really for Delphinette, who has no clue in the morning that she’s turned into a miniature of Linda Blair in The Exorcist at some point during the night. We’ll try that. Maybe we will get more sleep that way.

I think the reason that people balked at believing in suicide is that in the entertainment media when someone kills themselves, they shoot themselves in the head. Of course the media does it that way because it looks spectacular, not because it’s the most common way of doing it.

Back in April the British ‘League of Nerds’ podcast interviewed one of Fiona O’Leary’s supporters, the interview focusses on the practice of using bleach enemas to cure autsim, but GcMAF also gets mentioned at one point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6nqnF6_Lqc

When I told Mr Woo about this, he immediately loved the murder instead idea (of course). I had another theory for the shot to the heart. It might sound silly, but perhaps he wanted his family to be able to bury him without too much fuss? He might have been worried about making too much of a mess.

A place I was working a very thoughtful gun suicide made sure he made the area easy to clean up afterwards. It is kind of strange how a person’s mind works when it gets to that place. Nothing of what I’ve read sounds strange through the lens of suicide.

@JP – if it is the right time of the day (i.e., after dark), the Nightvale podcast usually puts me to sleep before it gets to the weather.

Sorry, but it is obvious why the Holistic Doctor Murder Conspiracy has so far targeted relatively obscure figures, and not giants like Mercola and Null. There’d be far too much uproar if the Pharma Mafia took out those leaders; better to pick off the lesser lights sneakily and gradually gut holistic care before the faithful can catch on.

But thanks to the vigilance of the altie community, our sinister plot has unraveled. 🙁

JP–

As I understand it (and I am not a doctor, nor any other sort of expert here) getting up and doing something else for a bit if you can’t fall asleep can be a good idea, but don’t look at a computer or TV screen or other bright lights. So, read a book, listen to music or a podcast, knit, do puzzles, call a friend in another timezone, even make tuna salad (as a friend of mine’s mother used to do).

Also, warm non-caffeinated drinks can be a help: I sometimes stretch that far enough to include hot cocoa, if I’m not in the mood for herb tea.

From everything I’ve read, nitrogen asphyxiation seems like just about the ideal way to die. I imagine one could find any number of nooks or crannies that could the gas long enough to complete the deed. Heck, it happens so quickly and do seamlessly that a clothes dryer with the duct sealed off might do the trick. Something to take edge off the anxiety, maybe something to make one drowsy, and it’s about as close to a peaceful death as I can imagine.

From everything I’ve read, nitrogen asphyxiation seems like just about the ideal way to die. I imagine one could find any number of nooks or crannies that could hold the gas long enough to complete the deed. Heck, it happens so quickly and so seamlessly that a clothes dryer with the duct sealed off might do the trick. Something to take edge off the anxiety, maybe something to make one drowsy, and it’s about as close to a peaceful death as I can imagine.

I acknowledge that the main downside to this method is materials acquisition, and that suicide by firearm is still more convenient.

Which strikes me as an oddly macabre way to describe suicide.

I’ve served my community for a number of years, sometimes aiding in body recovery. Yes, people shoot themselves in the chest, and any other sort of grotesque manner possible (though typically males are more apt to use a weapons or hanging to complete one). Females go for meds more, and cars.

Suicide is about the irrational mind, many times without an explanation to friends, family members, or their kids. Sometimes they try and take their family/pets with them. The intent to die overrides any rational thought.

Rourke [email protected] 58 & 59 (double post) is correct that nitrogen gas provides a painless exit. This is discussed in some circles having to do with death with dignity. I’d suggest we not go into it further here, as a) widespread publication of the details could facilitate suicides that might otherwise not have occurred, and b) that may result in restrictions on the availability of one or more necessary components for those who have an uncontroversial need for a dignified exit, such as if they are in end-stage terminal disease with truly intractable pain.

Re. conspiracies: The search for a sense of meaning about a death. For CTers, it’s not sufficient that a suicide means only that the person took their exit rather than face some kind of unpleasant situation (family breakup, criminal charges, whatever), or that they had a psychiatric ailment (e.g. depression) or a random accident of some kind (automobile or whatever). Instead, there is an element of projecting personal agency into the cause of death, i.e. “someone” did it, and the victim can’t be that “someone,” so it has to be a motivated outside party. For the ideologically motivated, the outside party is their long-standing ideological nemesis. QED all that remains is to put names and faces on the killers.

True Gray Squirrel. I was hesitant to even discuss the preparation by the suicide I was acquainted with. Someone who survived a very intentional attempt told me that as much as their brain wanted to die their body seemed very hard-wired to survive. The majority of us can be harder to kill than we might expect.

That doesn’t make any sense!
Well, no, but this is David Noakes. Back when he was still in the UK Independence Party, the other members of the party were concerned that he made them look crazy. “Mad as a box of frogs” was the phrase they used.

an Irish woman named Fiona O’Leary to begin investigating First Immune and complaining to UK health authorities.

As Graham noted at #52, O’Leary has also been a stalwart in the campaign to keep bleach enemata and MMS out of the British Isles.
I suspect that tip-offs to the UK authorities came from a number of sources. Noakes was probably pissing off a lot of people in Guernsey with his FIrst Immune business. The old-money squirarchy there do not look kindly upon brash parvenus, and smoothing ruffled feathers is not Noakes’ strong point. Nor do they like people who call attention to Guernsey (and its tax-haven status), whereas “calling attention” is the thing that Noakes is best at doing.

we were told there is no good way to commit suicide

There are good ways to euthanase. Or so I hear from a friend.

We ran through any number of scenarios but there was always a flaw.

I take it that you’re speaking from a perspective appropriate to AP psychology, which I’m surprised even exists.

I find the argument that Bradstreet could not have commited suicide because he shot himself simply nonsense. Suicides are conducted with the tools most at hand. Waiting a few days or weeks to get hold of enough pharmaceuticals is simply not an option.

On commiting suicide, having access to a laboratory chemical store, I can offer several certain ways to commit suicide. They may not be particularly pleasant, but highly effective and most importantly quick.

Yvette @32: Obviously they are targeting the people who have effective treatments, and leaving the outright quacks like Mercola, Wakefield, and Elizabeth to continue discrediting the whole movement.

Apparently, Dan O ( AoA) thinks that Cia Parker’s words of wisdom outweigh his own this Saturday…

she has a “novel idea”:
why not have doctors read books recommended by parents that inform about the dangers of vaccines and the reality of vaccine injury since parents themselves may be required to listen to an educational lecture by physicians in some places?

It could be done through a meeting like those of a book club.

Books like (the aptly named) Judy Converse’s “When Your Doctor is Wrong” and Eisenstein’s tome. Others like those of Neustaedter, Fraser, Handley and Blaxill/ Olmsted are mentioned as are Dr Jay and ‘Evidence of Harm’.

Parents should be heard!
Remember that Dr Offit REFUSED to debate Toni Bark..
Parker wonders why that is.

Oh [email protected] ! She stole MY line.

In other alternate universe news:

Mike Adams is readying his new search engine, Good Gopher, which will effectively filter out mainstream media, governmental propaganda and corporate shillery in order to clear the information highway entirely for The Truth to educate The People and free them from Ignorance, Commercialism and Misinformation.

Yes, we’re on the Brink of a New Era.
As we are quite frequently, according to Mikey.

#69 Denice Walter

she has a “novel idea”: why not have doctors read books recommended by parents that inform about the dangers of vaccines and the reality of vaccine injury

Bad idea, the USA would lose too many doctors: apoplexy, dying from laughing too hard, or in jail after murdering one or more parents.

Actually, it might not be a bad idea, but not in the way she thinks. If doctors read those books, they’d be familiar with the pseudoscientific crap arguments antivaxers use and be more prepared to counter them.

“I take it that you’re speaking from a perspective appropriate to AP psychology, which I’m surprised even exists.”

Had to have been; that was the context and I haven’t looked for a “good way” in years.

AP Psych is the easiest thing to develop into an AP course which is why it was one of the first. For me personally, I had an interest in psychology, yes, but I also wanted to graduate early.

“They may not be particularly pleasant, but highly effective and most importantly quick.”

No pain, easy to access, no time to have regret, 100% lethal, no mess to clean up afterwards, no one else involved; the list narrows.

But I’ll let you win the argument if you have to resort to specifics. I really don’t want to know or to see them posted on the web.

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