A commercial for acupuncture masquerading as news

Since then, she has served as a medical expert for CNN Headline News, a Dr. Oz Sharecare expert, columnist and contributing editor for Prevention Magazine and been featured on numerous media outlets….

“Having your taste criticized by Dorothy Kilgallen is like having your clothes criticized by Emmett Kelly.”

those graphs on the computer screen that Dr. Bhatia was explaining to her patient

I am SHOCKED to find clouds of hi-tech bafflegab coming from a needle grifter.

Yup- it’s perfectly fine to mislead a patient if you’re trying to relieve symptoms of cancer, rather than cure their cancer- as Dr. Mark Crislip was informed by the staff of Memorial Sloan Kettering last week: https://www.mskcc.org/blog/truth-behind-three-natural-cures

She’s also anti-vaccine, too: http://doctortaz.com/pediatric-wellness/dr-taz-md-wellness-solutions-back-school-survival-series-part-two-vaccine-debate-continues/ . She is board-certified, but not in oncology or internal medicine. She is board-certified in pediatrics

Bhatia is probably one of the worst results yet of Andrew Weil’s “fellowship program” at the University of Arizona. She’s equally offensive to you, Orac for doing things in oncology she has no reason to be doing and she clearly stinks up pediatrics as well, raising my hackles. She has two other physicians with her–one is internal medicine and has already done Weil’s “program” while the other is a family physician who is doing the fellowship online. It is deeply worrisome if physicians can now do Weil’s fellowship without at least having to move to Tucson for a few years. WTH kind of fellowship is that?

I despise this lot of MD quacks wholeheartedly. They get a foot in the door so they can shove a boat load of manure into their “practice” and coat if with the veneer of their “training”.

WTH kind of fellowship is that?

Indeed. If it doesn’t involve a trek through dangerous territory to throw a ring into Mount Doom in the company of sturdy – but flawed – comrades while avoiding Nazgûl at every turn, then what kind of fellowship is it?

Eric @10 — Actually, many of the premeds I see these days aren’t too bad with physics. And when I see a particularly good doctor and tell them what I do, they often perk up and say they really liked physics back in college. And fortunately, our local med school/teaching hospital seems to have avoided all traces of quackademia and woo — so far (knock on Formica).

Curiously, Ron Popeil’s half-sister is the highly respected vocalist and voice coach Lisa Popeil. Showmanship runs in the family, though — according to Wiki, she performed in her underwear in a Frank Zappa show doing the sprechstimme piece “The Dangerous Kitchen” and a song called “Teenage Prostitute” in full-on operatic style.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

The Biopulsar sounds like a Listen Device with a fresh coat of paint.

I vague;y remember some other TV news item on woo-things linked here or SBM turned out to also be from a unidentified syndicated feed — making it look like the reporter and subject were local when they weren’t. These pieces are created for this purpose, otherwise they’d have some local identifiers (“a Detroit woman…”). IIRC the other one I recall was about dog acupuncture (??).

For some time, newspapers have been cutting local staff, and pulling as these can off various wire and syndication services, so it’s no surprise local TV news would do the same with human interest features. What is odd is woo being among the apparent go-to topics. It’s possible some PTB has a woo-genda, but I doubt it. More likely, some news consultant has focus-group-tested a wide variety of topics and ‘tropes’ for these ‘human-interest’ fillers, and discovered that these stories are among the most effective methods of drawing a key demographic to the news broadcasts. ‘Hard news’ is pretty gendered, so I’d guess these stories have been chosen to appeal to a largely female audience: the folks who’ve watched Oprah, Oz, Dr. Phil etc. during the day. TV is very corporate, and news shows are big revenue producers for local stations, since they get to sell all the ad time. The ad rates are all based on the latest book, so the stations are highly competitive for ratings and demographics and they’d run anything that was cost effective in pulling numbers and demographics (i.e. this is actually on the lower end of the embarassment scale…)

My guess then is it’s not that Martha Shade, or the news director at WDIV who pulled this piece from the available pool of syndicated stuff are genuinely credulous — they just couldn’t care less about this material beyond its marketability.

The person who pitched this piece to CNN is probably Bhatia herself. She doesn’t seem to have appeared on CNN or HLN much lately, so I’d guess they’re not trying to promote her into the next Oz, or ringing her up with ‘what do you have for us?’ queries. SHE may want to be the next Oz, but I don’t think she’s found a big-time backer yet.

She does have some fine natural food woo going on her site though, and a book for sale:

The 21-Day Belly Fix
Fix Your Belly, Find Your Health
…a groundbreaking 21-day eating plan to shed pounds, accelerate metabolism, balance your digestive system, improve gut function, and feel better every day – without dieting.

Tasneem Bhatia does not show up in the Emory faculty directory, nor does Emory appear to even have a program in “Preventive/Integrative Medicine”. The med school department is called ‘Family and Preventive Medicine.” A couple faculty there do identify themselves as expert in “integrative medicine”, but the only hits Google returns for ‘Taz Tasneem Bhatia + Emory’ are pages with her bio. Emory is not listed as a current or former employer on her Linked-In page, which does list Orac’s old pal Dr. David Katz as an “influencer”.

As for the acupuncture-for-chemo, I’ve certainly seen worse. “Minimizes stress and inflammation to keep cancer at bay,” is BS, of course, and “balance the nervous system” is questionable (awfully vague, so not necessarily a full-on qi thing), but I’ve got no problem per se with doctors prescribing needling to patients who imagine it might help “manage side-effects during chemotherapy, like the nausea” or “reduce the pain and issues that arise post-treatment”. Over on SBM, even Dr. Novella noted the placebo effects of acupuncture for such uses appear to be stronger than other placebos — “the more invasive the procedure the larger the placebo effect”.

And no, placebo effects do not depend on doctors lying to patients. They depend on the patients’ beliefs that they are being treated with something that might work, which is why any medical treatment being evaluated by subjective patient reports has to be controlled against placebo. Patients can and will believe what they believe without physicians making specific claims, and even in the face of physicians telling them “science says this doesn’t do anything but trick your mind…”

Which is not at all to endorse “Dr. Taz”. Looking at her web stuff, including the fairly recent dates of her woo ‘certifications’, my guess is that she wants to be the next big ‘holsitic health’ celebrity/entrepreneur, that she’s in it for the fame and fandom (even more than the $$), and I wouldn’t bet the rent money that her medical discretion won’t become even more compromised in pursuit of her goals…

@ Chris Hickie #7
I’m not sure it’s fair to call her anti-vax, though. The first bold point on the page you linked is “Vaccines are not bad or the cause of autism.” She supports a delayed schedule for “children (and adults) that have defective systems of detoxification,” but there’s no indication on the page she’d enable total non-vaxers a la Dr.s Bob and Jay. That ship’s sinking, anyway, and my guess would be she’s too smart to go there, lest it damage her cred.

And no, placebo effects do not depend on doctors lying to patients.

I have to side with Orac here. It may be true, particularly if the study is properly designed, that the doctors administering the placebo treatment aren’t lying, because they themselves don’t know that Patient #1742 is getting the placebo and not the real medication that is being studied in the trial. The attending physicians aren’t supposed to know who is in which group. But somebody up the chain of command does have access to the list of which patients are in which group, and this person is lying to Patient #1742 by claiming that (s)he is getting the experimental treatment. The point is that somebody, somewhere, knows that Patient #1742 is getting the placebo, and allowing the patient to believe otherwise.

I think any vet offering pet acupuncture should have the same performed on them…by a cat.

Patient #1742 would have been told that he (or she) might get a placebo when he (or she) enrolled in the study, right? If so, I see no lie being told by anyone.

“My understanding is that in trials where the patient does knows for a fact it is the placebo that you don’t see the same results as when they know they believe they might be taking the real drug.”

It also depends on the endpoint(s). In a recent trial (properly blinded), the clinical group worked hard to make the endpoints so un-subjective that we had no placebo remission. It was pretty good work, IMO.

It appears as though Dr. Bhatia is an adjunct assistant professor at Emory School of Family Medicine and there is no Preventive/Integrative department there as sadmar noted.

OK, I need to clarify that I’m arguing about placebo effects because I think it’s BAD STRATEGY against dangerous woos to critique them on the basis of generating placebo effects… which I’ll explain following the 2nd break below (should you care to skip the further discussion of placebo, and get on to why I think it matters…).
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Every attempt I’ve seen to demonstrate that there can be placebo effects without deception has failed.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. 🙂

First: chicken soup.

Second: I’ll bet you’ve seen umpteen hundred placebo controlled clinical trials of new meds scored with some sort of subjective patient report similar to the IBS-GIS. The reason for the placebo control is to establish a baseline of subjective improvement which the med must exceed to be considered effective. Otherwise, the patients receiving the ‘real’ med — who have not been deceived by the researchers — may report improvement simply because they expect to feel better after taking something, anything they think is ‘medicinal’, and those physchological effects will be conflated with the physiological effects of the remedy being tested.

Yes, the Kaptchuk study screwed-the-pooch by priming the test subjects with the statement “shown in rigorous clinical testing to produce significant mind-body self-healing processes,” (my emphasis) since no “healing” is involved, just subjective symptomatic relief. But if they had said “significant mind-body processes of symptomatic relief”, do you think it would have made that much difference? (Not really rhetorical… I mean, I’d guess it wouldn’t, but it might.)

My problem with that study – a concern I do share with you – is the reliance on subjective reports of subjective relief. Placebo effects wouldn’t be worth much if all they do is create a different grade of answers on questionaires. IMHO, what a study like this needs is ‘objective’ measures of ‘feeling better’. I’m not sure I’d expect number of bowel movements to change (or matter), or medication requirements necessarily. But “time lost from work” seems valid, and maybe other time measures as well — time in enjoyable activities gained, maybe. Though it would be hard to collect the ‘data’, there ought to be ‘objectively’ observable changes in patients’ moods and actions as they go about everyday life if they are indeed ‘feeling better’.

The self-selection of study respondents is a feature, not a bug. Any individual real or hypothetical placebo treatment would not be an ‘it works for most patients’ proposition. If you truly believe it won’t offer any relief, it won’t be placebo. So, if placebo treatments can indeed help patients with chronic ‘subjective’ conditions achieve a better quality-of-life, only a select group of them will ever likely get a valuable subjective benefit from any given placebo ‘modality’.

A key point here is we keep focusing on ‘deception’ by the prescribing medical professional. However, patients do not live in glass bubbles where their physicians are the only source of opinion and information. Nor do most patients – however much they trust their doctors – imagine their physicians are infallible. If the doc says “I can have you do/take (X) but science says it won’t make you feel better in any way,” the patient might think “well, maybe the doc’s wrong about that” and get a placebo effect by doing or taking (X) anyway, as long as some other factor leads them to think it might have medicinal value. If your mom always gave you chicken soup when you had a cold, you just might believe chicken soup will make you feel better enough that it WILL make you feel better, no matter what anyone else says. And how many cold sufferers get chicken soup, just on their own volition, without even talking to any medical ‘authority’ much less being fibbed to by a physician? Who’s running the great matzo ball deception, Linda Richman? (Say it’s not so; I’m getting verklempt!)

If your hypothesis is “placebo effects don’t even provide substantive symptomatic relief”, well, that would be subject to scientific verification, yes? If you ran a variant of the Kaptchuk study, using test subjects who at least thought the placebo treatment they received might help symptomatically, against a control group who stated they were convinced it wouldn’t do anything at all, AND used some of those ‘objective’ quality-of-life measures rather than just questionaire-based self-reports — AND if there was no significant difference between the ‘objective’ measures of ‘improvement’ between the two groups, THEN you’d have strong evidence that placebos are all but worthless… Lacking that, I’m not convinced.

[A valuable variation of such a study would seek to measure the difference, if any, in placebo effects of treatment (X) between patients who believed only that might/would offer symptomatic relief, and patients who believed it would offer actual physiological healing. That is, how much does any psychological benefit depend on a totally false belief in a cure?]
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OK: to the anti-woo strategy. Regardless of how many sbm advocates consider placebo effects ‘worthless’, the question remains open to debate, and more importantly, a lot of the population we’d like to keep away from the clutches of quacks will take any kind of relief from chronic maladies they can get, even if merely psychological. When sbm advocates declare flatly ‘acupuncture doesn’t work’, too many in the intended audience will reject the message because they ‘know’ the treatment does work, as they define ‘work’. Which also happens to be how the American Heritage Dictionary defines ‘work’: “to cause or effect, bring about”. Thus, a ‘placebo effect’ is essentially synonymous with ‘placebo work’. (If that bothers anyone, I suggest you take it up with the lexicographers)

I will assume the first-order goal of sbm advocates is to get patients in need of real physiological medical treatment to forego using woo as a substitute. To that end, getting into the murky waters of condemning placebos carte blanche is absolutely unnecessary and deflecting. The point is the woo ‘modalities’ make promises for cures that are utterly false, and dangerous. That’s all you need to establish, and all you SHOULD attempt to establish for the target audience. One of the first rules of advertising (and media communication in general, as opposed to face-to-face persuasion) is ‘limit each message to one and only one central idea’. (Among the many ad gurus who’ve made that point is David Ogilvy, creator of the iconic “At 60 miles an hour, the loudest noise in this new Rolls-Royce comes from the electric clock” ad you cited yesterday, which is a perfect exemplar of the concept.) Even multiple entirely-positive points (the various different benefits a salesperson might pitch in person, for example) dilute one another and become noise in a mediated environment where the message competes for attention time and importance. You sure as hell don’t want to toss in anything that could generate “well, I don’t know about that!”.

There’s more than enough smack to dump on the curative claims of the wooists. You don’t need to open the ‘placebos are worthless’ suitcase. You don’t have to endorse placebo effects, just don’t go to the question in the abstract at all. It wouldn’t kill sbm advocates to say ‘[acupuncture] doesn’t work beyond placebo effects!’ instead of saying ‘[acupuncture] doesn’t work!’ (substitute other woos as desired). If people feel better, there’s no problem if they JUST feel better. The problem is their underlying condition is NOT going to get better if an acupoint prod, a 30C dilution, a subluxation alignment, hand waving, an ‘all-natural’ supplement enhanced diet, coffee enemas, yada yada yada replaces physiologically effective conventional therapy. Let those suffering sbm-meds-inescapable pain deal in whatever way ‘works’ for them — qi alignment, CBT, meditation, prayer, whatever The last person I want to see if I have a serious illness is any kind of preacher, but I wouldn’t kick the chaplins out of the hospitals. OTOH, faith healers like Ted Shuttlesworth who help convince patients like Makayla Sault to forego chemo for Jesus, I would put in jail.

It’s not the nature of the woo, it’s the damage done with it. There are plenty of legitimate meds that can be abused, and fatally so. But we don’t ban Oxycontin, Adderal, or Klonopin. We fight the abuse, try to head off the damage. Compared to Rx drugs, the line with woo is a lot easier to draw. It’s all there on the quacks’ webpages. They WILL claim they can cure almost anything. There are homeopaths telling you your cancer will disappear if you use your laptop to listen to .mp3s alleged to be infused with some ‘energy wave’ (which, if you know how .mp3s are compressed and how audio is reproduced by tiny little speakers, is a 30C dilution of the probability 30C dilutions do anything beyond placebo…). And like every alt-cancer-scam, the message is, you don’t need that nasty, expensive, uglifying chemo and radiation!

Personally, I’ll admit that what “Dr. Taz” is hawking doesn’t bother me much. But if it did, if I was just as galled by acupuncture as much as Mark Crislip is, I’d like to think that if I was running an anti-woo PR campaign, I’d be professional enough to put my own hot-buttons aside, assess where I could direct my limited resources to doing the most good – in this case by minimizing the greatest harms – and laser-focus my messages on the most effective strategies to reach the people at risk in the most powerful way.

[After years of telling teenagers that smoking causes cancer and lung disease, with little effect, the agency doing anti-smoking spots changed strategy. They had an attractive young actress face the camera and say, “Kissing a smoker is like licking an ashtray… Smokers are losers.” I’ll bet it hurt the medical advisers NOT to mention the health risks. But it was the right move…]

sadmar,

As far as chaplains in hospitals I don’t know that they ever claim to be performing any kind of treatment, and if they do, they need to be kicked out.

The problem with alt med practices and proponents is they conflate everything from placebo effects to bashing real medicine to time spent with patients (not just cures) with medical treatments. This is how they make in-roads. If they were confined to the “this will make you feel better” only mantra they would be competing with things like a fifth of gin, video games, massage, fine food, whores, drugs, etc. – all things that may make you feel better when you’re not ill. And they were losing to these handily until people started being told there was actually something medicinal about their rot.

Side note: I used to see doctor’s orders for beer/liquor from time to time because a patient insisted on having it while in the hospital. Prior to the order the doctors counseled patients on it and often asked their families about it. If no contraindication the patients had to make their own arrangements to have it brought in. We in the pharmacy were never tasked with obtaining, monitoring it (outside of med interactions) and no one pretended it was a placebo treatment or an actual treatment. And, more importantly, the administration of the hospital wasn’t marketing it and building bars on campus.

I’m fine with people believing in whatever and doing whatever (ethically) they want to make themselves feel better when ill but keep the make-believe, feel good, pretend medicine far away from the practice of real medicine, please.

^ Have one on me then, Alter.

It figures there would be a brewery such as this, and here I thought the “whores” line would bring out the jokes.

there is considerable evidence out there that there really is no such thing as the placebo effect

I understand that a study that compared a placebo to a sugar pill found no difference.

Why are MDs in the U.S. allowed to administer and prescribe treatments of unproven benefit to the endpoint of resolving disease without the repercussion of having their license pulled? Does MD come with some sort of 007 clause?

Alice didn’t know what (the word) meant but it sounded like a very grand thing to say. (Alice Through The Looking- Glass). Quantum.Pulsar.etc ad nauseam. And what is an organ system, as distinct from an organ? Is this a real term? “if you wish to discourse with me ,you must define your terms.” (Voltaire). Not the terms of it but the terms you use in it. Coming soon to a planet near you : Using the Higgs field to cure everything.

Lighthorse @ 38: Excellent! Game ON, stay tuned…!;-)

Rich @ 40: Super! (some of the accompanying pictures aren’t for the faint of heart).

That’s utterly brilliant. Sharing now. 🙂

@ MOB #9: The whole thing is a scam compared to *real* fellowships: file:///C:/Users/Dr%20Hickie/Downloads/Fellowship%20expenses_0714.pdf . You have to pay about $35,000 to “do” this “fellowship”. You apparently only spend a week in Tucson kissing Weil’s ass.

If I were to do a pediatric infectious disease fellowship (3 yrs), I would be *paid* a stipend of ~ $59 K for my many hours of clinical work (https://gme.wustl.edu/About_the_GME_Consortium/Policy/Pages/Stipends.aspx) actually caring for patients using SBM and not the crap of “integrative medicine”.

Rich @ 43 and Palindrome @ 44: Thanks!;-) I do that sort of thing for fun, and I’ve also planted a number of memes in the culture.

If we can find one man and one woman with good singing voices, and a good pianist, in the San Francisco Bay Area, and someone to underwrite the cost of two days in a recording studio, I can produce this at professional quality (I have studio production experience). That plus a volunteer videographer (I don’t know squat about doing video), gets us a YouTube video as well as a downloadable audio file, and I guarantee it’ll go viral. I can come up with a video script for the visuals as well, though it might be necessary to pay for some stock photos.

There’s no copyright problem: satire is fair use, per US Supreme Court decisions.

_And then_ we send a copy to the woomeister who is the subject of this column. And watch her poo in her pants and change the name of her “treatment.” (I’ve gotten another group of nasties to change their name after I demolished the one they started with, so this isn’t an idle boast.)

Question is, who shall be the next target for this treatment? How’bout Mikey the Health Ranger?

@ Gray Squirrel:

That’s terrific.
In fact, we do have a creative fellow in the Bay area who might know how to hook up the people you need altho’ he is often very busy in his sideline occupation of conquering the known universe for Pharma.COM.

Mikey would be a good target for your efforts but I’m afraid it’s too sophisticated for his tastes/ abilities. You might need to toss in some zombies or cannibals to reach him.

@ DB #48–A naturopath called my clinic last month wanting to know if I had space to rent and was interested in a collaborative effort. I only wished I owned the garbage dumpster….

@ Gray Squirrel:

Whilst I cannot speak for his Saurian Majesty, I can merely suggest that you wait patiently for his response, if there is one.. So hold your horses for a bit.
-btw- he also has a band, Baby Seal Club, which performs professionally.

I am not the Source but merely an intermediary of this beneficence.

Gray Squirrel — you’re a genius.

I will have to dig out the anti-vax parody I wrote to the tune of “Ain’t Mis-behavin” during H1N1 and send it to the two of you after you’ve gotten his Lordship’s permission.

DB@48: Sadly, veterinary chiropractors are not a new thing, even on this blog. Yes, that linked post really is talking about a chiroquacktic. Yes, I still find the idea to be absolutely quackers, two years after Orac posted that.

Woo and animals.

Accupuncture, homeopathy and herbalism are very big in organic livestock production. Even some of the bigger milk companies hire wootastic vets to have on staff. It is sickening.

Shay @ 55: Cool, looking forward to hearing it. With enough of these we could compile an album or a YouTube channel or something.

Sadmar @ 60: Excellent, which means we could get to video right away. We still need two decent vocalists, male and female. If I can retrieve that item in your Dropbox account, I might be able to leave you a quick .TXT doc with my contact info including a phone number. Or if not, then I’ll set up a temporary email address and post it here. (Pardon all the spy-vs-spy but I’ve dealt with a stalker before and I don’t want to pick up another one from the flock of loons who occasionally drop in here.) Once we’re in touch the rest is “easy”;-) Stay tuned…

Denice @ 62: Yes, I’ve read of those cases where badguys and badgals have tried to harass people here. Always protect your home address, very smart.

Sadmar: I just wrapped up my night stack, and I’ll have time to set up a public email address later today (Thursday), at which point I’ll post it here and then post a brief “check the other column” message in whatever new column Orac might post today.

This ought to be fun, heh heh…

Orac,
For the record, I thought you should know it was Dr Eric Minninberg, my oncologyst with Piedmont Cancer Institute that suggested I try accupuncture. Dr Minnenberg attended Dartmouth, Univ of VA, and was a fellow at MD Anderson. Not really a “woo” program. Piedmont Hospital offers accupuncture on-site on the cancer floor because of science behind accupuncture. I did not start seeing Dr Taz Bhatia until after completing 6 rounds of HCT, a year of Herceptin and a double masectomy. It was not until afterwards when I was suffering from severe nuerapthy, fibromyalsia, severe fatigue, autoimmune issues, thyroid and hormone issues, severe anemia, celiac and issues from mthfr that I started to see Dr. Taz. If you go back through my medical records you will see I was continually anemic, had chronic severe low vit D, high inflammation marks from chronic back pain and in general, thyroid problems, reynauds and had suffered a huge loss of my late husband from acute AML on our ten year anniversary. I was a walking time bomb for Breast Cancer and yet not a SINGLE traditional Dr ever told me that I needed to get my inflamation under control, get my vit D up and get control over my high estrogen numbers and thyroid. Whose job was it? No ones… For every Dr just focused on their individual specialty and no one treated me as a whole.. And my story sadly is not unique. I have never claimed accupuncture alone would cure or prevent cancer. I have had Dr’s throw every single drug possible to help with my severe side effects to no avail other than destroying my eyes ( i have implants in both eyes from steroidal cataracts) and destroying my stomach to the point I could not eat and for six months I could not even leave my bed to even get to the couch my symptoms were so severe. It was another six months I spent with my only move being to the couch then back to bed. Traditional medicine offered no cure only treatment of the different symptoms with more and more drugs– to the point my body was reacting adversely to every RX. My body was just spent. Then Dr Taz took the time to treat my whole body and helped me come up with a plan that did not include throwing more drugs and toxins into my body. We worked on my gut and diet, on getting my vitamin d up, balancing my thyroid, getting my hormones balanced (i can not tolerate tamoxifen and was tripple positive–i can not walk if I am on it) explaining methylation as well as help with identifying the triggers that send me back to bed during autoimmune flare ups… I have symptoms that fall inbetween ms, lupus and schleraderma…. I have been blessed to have always had access to amazing Dr’s who are at the top of their field, here in Atlanta, Dallas and Nashville…yet it was Dr Taz, who took 6 hours with me on my initial visit and then additional time in going back through my years of records, that has helped me in reclaiming my life. Before cancer, I was an active and healthy Mom of three children, I was a competitive athlete, enjoyed tennis, horses, volunteered and worked full time as an event planner… So to be not able to walk from my bed to the couch was a complete 360 to life I had. Though accupuncture and keeping inflammation down may not cure cancer – that was never my claim nor Dr Taz’s. Keeping all in balance, including balanced hormones, a diet free of sugar and items that are known to feed cancer along with keeping my inflammation, pain and flare ups under control…. That does allow my body to be the best it can so I can have a body that does not allow cells to divide and cancer to grow and I have a body that can now fight as well. For these gifts of “woo woo”, I am so greatful and I would not trade Dr Bhatia and the holistic lifestyle measures I incorporate in my life, including accupunctire, for the world. I am surviving and thriving as I approach my four year cancer free mark in December and that is a story worth sharing! So for me..bring on the “woo”! Sincerely, jennifer

I can’t recall whether it was Piedmont or Georgia Baptist hospital that perforated my mother’s esophagus doing a routine scoping for hiatal hernia. They did keep her without charge, for the months it took her esophagus to heal.