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Google delists Mike Adams’ NaturalNews.com. His hilarious tantrum about the “conspiracy” behind it is epic, as is my schadenfreude.

Mike Adams the “Health Ranger” runs NaturalNews.com, arguably the wretchedest of wretched hives of scum and quackery on the web. Yesterday, Google delisted it. You’ll forgive me if I indulge in a bit of schadenfreude, given Adams’ long history of promoting quackery, gloating over the deaths of celebrities with cancer who used conventional treatment, and character assassination directed at science advocates, including yours truly.

Regular readers here are probably familiar with Mike Adams and his website NaturalNews.com. Forget the antivaccine crank blog Age of Autism, when it comes to wretched hives of scum and quackery on the Internet, NaturalNews is the wretchedest, scummiest, and quackiest. Not surprisingly, Adams got his start in wingnuttery selling Y2K scams nearly 18 years ago. Now, besides presiding over a scammy online publishing empire that racks in considerable green by publishing articles laced with quackery, antivaccine pseudoscience, character assassination, and thuggery, both legal and getting a bit too close to inciting violence, Mikey fancies himself a scientist. (He also fancies himself a rapper and musician, but the less said about his rapping and vocal stylings, the better.) He’s even gone so far as to purchase a used mass spectrometer and use it to analyze everything from his competitors’ supplements to Flint water to the flu vaccine, resulting in pure hilarity (to real scientists) and, unsurprisingly, an interview with America’s Quack, Mehmet Oz, on The Dr. Oz Show and an instant quack bromance. Basically, if it’s quackery and pseudoscience, very likely Adams embraces it and probably profits from selling it. More recently, Adams has become a die-hard Donald Trump supporter and a rising star in the alt-right.

In the interests of full disclosure, I must reveal the reason for my schadenfreude. First, it appears that, for unclear reasons, Google penalized NaturalNews.com today, as Len over at Telapost noticed:

Today someone asked me why they could not find a website in Google search. The website is “Natural News” (http://naturalnews.com/).

Indeed, the site has been penalized by Google. This means, for whatever reason, the site does not show up in Google organic search. I tested the subdomain blogs.naturalnews.com as well, and it too is penalized.

Len goes on to note that he’s seen sites disappear for a day or two and come back, but as of right now he noted that NaturalNews.com is definitely missing from Google Search results. I myself also did some tests and found the same thing. At least as of my writing this, NaturalNews is:

If you are not active in the world of SEO you may call it blackballed, sandboxed, blacklisted, delisted, etc. It means your website has been removed from Google’s search results. Some penalties are algorithmic, others are manual, meaning a person at Google manually penalized the website for violating Google’s webmaster guidelines.

So we don’t know why NaturalNews was penalized by Google, nor do we know if this penalization is permanent, brief, or long term, but this is serious business:

As mentioned above, this could be a fluke. Or, maybe there are a tremendous amount of bad links pointing at them- I doubt that though- the site is 10yrs old.

I googled a recent post and it had been mentioned nearly 3,000 times in just days that I could tell, which means it has likely been cited significantly more than that. That is a tremendous amount od SEO value. From what I can tell, the site should be ranking very well. But, that said, there is only so much I can tell by just glancing around. I do not have access to what I would need to determine why the penalty occurred.

This must be fairly recent as SimilarWeb estimates that 31% of their 6,500,000 monthly hits are via organic search.

When I searched for NaturalNews.com on Google, I got Adams’ Facebook page. I got a bunch of entries about Natural News, including RationalWiki’s and a couple posts by me here and at my not-so-super-secret other blog. I got a couple of domains owned by Adams and linked to NaturalNews.com, such as NewsTarget.com, Healthranger.com, and TruthWiki.org, all domains that do not appear to be affected. But I saw no direct links to NaturalNews.com. On Twitter I’ve been getting reports from the UK that Adams’ site appears to have been delisted there as well.

Of course, it’s possible that, by the time you see this, Google will be indexing NaturalNews.com again. Or not. SEO might as well be black magic to me, and I am not wise in the ways of Google. I am, however, amused at Mike Adams’ reaction. Those of you familiar with Adams knows that to him everything is a conspiracy, and this is no exception. It couldn’t possibly be that Adams did something to trigger the penalty and that there was no malice on Google’s part (which is almost certainly the case). Oh, no. It had to be The Man out to get him, as this gloriously unhinged screed posted yesterday by Adams entitled GOOGLE blacklists Natural News… removes 140,000 pages from its index… “memory holes” Natural News investigative articles on vaccines, pharma corruption, fraudulent science and more. Naturally, the reason Google penalized and “delisted” his website is retaliation:

Late last week, I received a direct threat that warned if I did not take steps to destroy Alex Jones and InfoWars, I would be targeted for destruction in a campaign of smears, censorship and defamation.

Instead of giving in to the enemy, I refused to take the bait and went public with details of the threat, warning everyone in the new media that sinister forces were now being pursued to undermine and silence every anti-establishment (and pro-Trump) voice on the internet.

True to form, today the entire Natural News website has been blacklisted by Google, entirely without warning.

As is his usual M.O., Adams linked the delisting of his flagship website to…well, everything, including the fall of Milo Yiannopoulos, the alt right troll known for his misogyny, slurs against and outing of LGBT people, and general nastiness. Apparently, none of that was too much for conservatives who embraced him for being “politically incorrect,” but when he spoke way too blithely about pedophilia, even appearing to defend it and joke about his molestation by a priest as having taught him how to give better fellatio, that was too much and he was disinvited from speaking at this week’s CPAC conservative gathering and forced to resign from Breitbart. Of course, it was the “opposition research” and a “cynical media witch hunt” that brought him down. Then there’s InfoWars having been “blackballed” by AdRoll, thus cutting into Alex Jones’ profits. Then, of course, there were those evil liberals pummeling the Shopify e-commerce platform to dump the Breitbart online store. Then there was this:

Today, Natural News has been hit by Google, which has blacklisted the entire Natural News domain and removed over 140,000 pages from its index. The take down of Natural News happened this morning, and it follows a pattern of censorship we’re seeing being leveled against other pro-Trump websites. Google sent no warning whatsoever to our “webmaster tools” email address on file with them. The shut off of Natural News was clearly driven by a human decision, not an algorithm. We’re currently attempting to determine Google’s claimed justification for censoring our entire website, and we hope to have NaturalNews.com restored in Google’s index.

Schadenfreude feels so good. I truly enjoyed reading Adams’ rant about how you are “witnessing a modern-day book burning by the internet Gestapo that now decides what knowledge you’re never allowed to access… especially because much of that knowledge can help set humanity free.” I mean, I knew Adams was grandiose, but this is ridiculous, so much so that it’s worth quoting at more length than I normally do, so that you, too, can laugh at it without actually having to visit NaturalNews.com (although feel free to do so if you like, and tell Adams Orac sent you). Read it in all its unhinged glory:

Natural News is, of course, one of the world’s top educational and activism sources exposing the lies of dangerous medicine, toxic mercury in vaccines, the corporate-quack science behind GMOs, cancer industry fraud and so on. By providing truthful, empowering and passionate information to the public, we harm the profit model of the corrupt medical cartels that fund the media, lobby the government and influence internet gatekeepers with advertising money. (Google has already declared war on natural medicine and nutritional supplements, all but banning them from being advertised on Google Adsense.)

The removal of Natural News from Google’s index means that millions of people may now be unnecessarily harmed by toxic medicines, herbicides and brain-damaging mercury in vaccines because they are being denied the “other side of the story” that’s censored by the corporate-controlled media. By censoring Natural News, Google is, in effect, siding with the criminal pharmaceutical industry that has been charged with multiple felony crimes and caught bribing doctors, fraudulently altering scientific studies, conducting medical experiments on children and price fixing their drugs to maximize profits.

In effect, censorship of Natural News is part of the establishment’s war on humanity which includes depopulation measures (Bill Gates), covert infertility vaccines, corporate-run media disinfo campaigns and a full-on assault against scientific truth and free speech conducted in the public interest.

Won’t someone think of the children? Not surprisingly, the almost as quacky Jon Rappoport is standing behind Mike Adams in his hour of need. Of course, Adams will look very silly if this was just a glitch and his site is relisted tomorrow. I’m hoping that doesn’t happen, but how Google operates is the very blackest of black boxes. Who knows what happened. I’m hoping the delisting sticks but fearing it won’t.

In any case, Adams is either really delusional or thinks incredibly little of his readers if he can say with a straight face that Natural News is one of the worlds “top educational and activism sources.” In reality, it is, as I said above, the wretchedest of wretched hives of scum and quackery, now seasoned with alt right, Trump-worshiping misogyny, racism, bigotry against transgendered people, and general right wing batshit nuttiness. Even more hilarious is his claim that “millions of people” might now be harmed by the evil toxins, vaccines, herbicides, and everything else Adams likes to rant about.

I have to wonder, naturally, whether Google’s decision to delist NaturalNews.com is part of its attempt to clean up fake news. To be honest, as much as I despise Adams and his website, I’m not sure that NaturalNews.com qualifies as fake news. Adams rarely makes up stories out of whole cloth. Rather, like every good propagandist he takes existing news stories and information sources, cherry picks from them, and then weaves them together into a deceptive, biased tale designed to rile up his readers by confirming their conspiracy theories, all while misrepresenting science and evidence to fuel his quackery-supporting narratives. That’s why I don’t really consider NaturalNews.com to be a fake news site, but more like a whackaloon conspiracy theory and quackery website. I realize that that could be a distinction without a true difference.

On the other hand, it’s a fine line between what Adams does and fake news; I’m not always sure where I’d draw it. Even so, there’s no doubt that Adams’ website had serious Google juice, given all the citations, incoming links, and, these days above all, the social media shares, all coupled with a lot of traffic and reach. And that was a problem. His “fake medicine” and conspiracy theory articles were very widely shared on Facebook, Twitter, and other social media, and Adams has been very SEO-, social media-, and web-savvy for a very long time. His ridiculous articles promoting ridiculous conspiracy theories (that is, when he wasn’t gloating over the deaths of celebrities who used conventional medicine to treat their cancer), had a wide reach and were not infrequently shared by people on Facebook who really should know better. Since he went all in for Donald Trump, his reach has only grown, as he has become a rising star in the alt right.

Like the alt right, he’s very good at playing the martyr, persecuted in this case for…well, just read:

It’s clear to me that Natural News is being targeted primarily because of our support for President Trump and his review of vaccine safety. It is now apparent that any person who engages in real science, critical thinking or any attempt to protect children from the brain damaging effects of mercury in vaccines is going to be silenced, discredited, smeared and blacklisted. This is an astonishing realization about the depths of total corruption in society today and how the medical cartels control information to maximize their profits off human suffering.

Or, it could just be that Adams tried something with his website that Google didn’t like, like bogus links, cloaking, spoofing, or doorway pages. Or something else that Google doesn’t like. There’s no way of knowing. As I said before, Google’s search algorithms are the blackest of black boxes.

I am, however, very much enjoying my schadenfreude, and will continue to do so as long as Adams’ site is delisted and he continues his tirades against Google and his victimhood conspiracies. I just started listening to Adams’ podcast about the whole thing:

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I’m sorry, I had to stop when Adams started to brag about how NaturalNews.com is true journalism that cites all its sources and does in-depth analysis. I couldn’t stop laughing.

ADDENDUM: Adams’ followup post, Beyond fake news… How Google just became FAKE SEARCH by blacklisting independent journalism, is even more hilariously epic in its overwrought language.

I can’t help but post this clip to indulge my schadenfreude:

ADDENDUM #2: Apparently, now Adams is trying to sell his readers on the idea that Google’s delisting of NaturalNews.com is a prelude to, well, just look at the title: RED ALERT: Fascist Google begins PURGE of pro-Trump websites as prelude to massive false flag or coup attempt. I wonder what Mikey will have to say when that purge and coup attempt never happen.

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500 replies on “Google delists Mike Adams’ NaturalNews.com. His hilarious tantrum about the “conspiracy” behind it is epic, as is my schadenfreude.”

I wonder if Adams knows what he did and is shouting conspiracy in spite of knowing better, of he really doesn’t know and sincerely believes he was targeted by “the man”.

Oh how I laughed.

Adams has put up a new doorway to his site: Natural.News which Google is finding.

Why does Adams care about the Gazoogle anyway? Wasn’t everyone supposed to be using GoodGopher, his own proprietary front-end alternative, by now?

I wonder if Adams knows what he did and is shouting conspiracy in spite of knowing better, of he really doesn’t know and sincerely believes he was targeted by “the man”.

His entire career for the last two decades is built on scamming and grifting. It seems unlikely that he has been innocently exploiting a loophole in the Goofle ranking algorithms in order to raise his profile, and is now genuinely bewildered and aggrieved because the loophole closed. I suspect that Adams is now all butthurt and victimhood because that’s what professional grifters do in these days of personal-responsibility-for-poor-people-only (viz Milo Y.).

“fraudulently altering scientific studies, conducting medical experiments on children”

He must be talking about (no longer a doctor) Andrew Wakefield.

I would call the delisting a case of too little too late, this should have been done well over a decade ago.

Late last week, I received a direct threat that warned if I did not take steps to destroy Alex Jones and InfoWars, I would be targeted for destruction in a campaign of smears, censorship and defamation.

I guess that subjects the whole “always packin’ heat,” ah, thing to quite an icy shower.

Wasn’t everyone supposed to be using GoodGopher, his own proprietary front-end alternative, by now?

It’s too bad that he’s not businessman enough to see this as an opportunity to sell crank- dynamo-powered appliances to keep his marks in contact. The bandwidth of packet radio or moonbounce might limit certain core functionality, of course.

when [Milo Yiannopoulos] spoke way too blithely about pedophilia, even appearing to defend it, that was too much

More advocating than ‘defending’. I think he was really attacking the quaint outmoded concept of “consent’, and trying to portray age of consent laws as just another example of liberal tyranny. Pandering to his audience.

Next on the (wish) list: Food Babe, Mercola, Age of Autism, TruthVac, Erin the Health Nut.

I’m positive I am forgetting quite a few.

Was it Gary Null who was calling for the Trump gubblement to take over the mainstream media and close them down, in the interests of Freeze Speech? Or some other wazzcock?

My FUCKSGIVEN ALERT status has been downgraded to zero.

Hi Orac, I updated the article today, and as of now, NaturalNews.com is definitely still missing from Google and completely de-indexed. Bing is showing 193,000 pages in their index.

It might also possible that Google delisted him due to malvertisement on his site, which has increased massively of late.
Malware being sent by an advertisement, advertised by one of the various ad sites used by many a webmaster and is currently being cracked down upon by Google and other search engine (and ad websites) owners.
Currently, a napkin estimate has been around one hundred fold increase in such malvertisements.
I’m both seeing this individually on various websites *and* in signature sets sent by NIPS/NIDS service providers over just this past month.
The crap has gone very seriously and badly off of the wire in that score. Added, ad sites that hijack the host page, shooting one straight to the targeted video ad, which is something witnessed just within the past 24 hours.

Regardless, good riddance to bad rubbish.

Oh, that was definitely my first suspicion. Adams could very well have been doing something Google doesn’t like to game his SEO and Google finally noticed. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if that’s what happened.

It’s nice to see that Google and Yahoo in Canada have also dropped (UN)naturalNews.com. For amusements sake, I checked out eh original evil (Bing) and the site is the first hit. The same applies to duckduckgo.com. Would have been so much sweeter if the site had of been wiped from all the major search engines. Oh well. Let the lies and stupidity propagate.

I like the idea that sentience exists in Google’s server farms and this intelligent being has correctly surmised that Adams is the antithesis of sentience.

Also possible that they had a plan to give a more minor penalty to sites that continue to publish debunked info and it went a little haywire. That’s what we need to push all on the quack sites down in the rankings for real medical and science search terms.

Sadly, instead of expressing solidarity, Adams’ cohorts in med-woo seem to be ignoring his victimization by the Google Conspiracy. For instance, Mercola is going his merry way, while Dr. Oz is concentrating on “teatoxing”.

“Naturopathic doctor Pina Logiudice explains how teatoxing at home can help you slim down and reduce bloat and water weight.”

How can these guys ignore a threat the laps at the very foundation of our liberty and threatens impending global depopulation??!?!?!?

when [Milo Yiannopoulos] spoke way too blithely about pedophilia, even appearing to defend it, that was too much

One of the few bright lines in politics is that you don’t want to be caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy. In Milo’s case, it was the latter.

He also fancies himself a rapper and musician, but the less said about his rapping and vocal stylings, the better.

So would I be better off listening to Florence Foster Jenkins? A compilation of her recordings was released with the subtitle Murder on the High C’s.

Sadly, instead of expressing solidarity, Adams’ cohorts in med-woo seem to be ignoring his victimization by the Google Conspiracy.

There is no honor among thieves.

Are you really THAT noaive? Yes, it’s the same thing. Glad Google is finally throwing out the trash. “I have to wonder, naturally, whether Google’s decision to delist NaturalNews.com is part of its attempt to clean up fake news. To be honest, as much as I despise Adams and his website, I’m not sure that NaturalNews.com qualifies as fake news. Adams rarely makes up stories out of whole cloth. Rather, like every good propagandist he takes existing news stories and information sources, cherry picks from them, and then weaves them together into a deceptive, biased tale designed to rile up his readers by confirming their conspiracy theories, all while misrepresenting science and evidence to fuel his quackery-supporting narratives. That’s why I don’t really consider NaturalNews.com to be a fake news site, but more like a whackaloon conspiracy theory and quackery website. I realize that that could be a distinction without a true difference.”

Orac writes,

On the other hand, it’s a fine line between what Adams does and fake news; I’m not always sure where I’d draw it.

MJD say,

I have similar thoughts about Respectful Insolence (RI) and Orac’s “antivaccine” standards.

In my opinion, if a person accepts at least one vaccine, or allows their child to receive at least one vaccine, they can not be labeled “anti-vaccine” or an “antivaxxer”.

Thus, using this criteria it is my opinion that Orac often spreads “Fake News” when placing individuals like Andrew Wakefield, RFK, Jr., and Robert DeNiro on the RI “anti-vaccine” hit list.

As much as I detest Naturalnews.com and Mike Adams, I feel shocked, scared, and not one bit surprised. This is a warning to ALL OF US.

We have put our intellectual freedom in the hands of a private company that DOES NOT have our best interests at heart. Intellectual freedom, unlike free speech, is freedom of expression given by a private entity. Google can provide it or not, at its pleasure.

Intellectual freedom given or not given by Google matters because for many users it is THE ONLY search engine and many don’t know how to use a locator bar or bookmarks. They have the Google pages as their home page, and the Google search box is their locator bar. Delisting from Google can mean your site disappears.

This means not only loyal fans and readers of Mike Adams’ swill can’t reach him unless they know the base URL and have ten nimble fingers, and are on a device with a reasonable keyboard, but also critics of quackery and students studying quackery (Adam’s work is primary source for that subject) also have a tougher time accessing him.

Google should not decide who gets to easily access what, but they do. What worries me this morning is who is next.

What Mike Adams should be doing is teaching his users about other search engines. Yahoo (Formerly Altavista) and Bing, are mainstream search engines that may or may not follow Google’s suit. Qrobe.it is a meta search engine with enhanced privacy, and my go-to engine. Then there is always the locator bar. Nearly all browsers have one, even mobile browsers. Nearly all browsers have bookmarks. Touch typing is a wonderful skill. Alas, he is wasting a good, teachable moment.

As for the rest of us, any of us can be next, since we have no idea how Google operates. Keep those ten wiggling fingers nimble even on a mobile keyboard.

@27/Eric Lund: Not quite; Milo was the “live boy”, as you put it; what happened was he spoke positively of his own molestation at 17 by an older priest and was defending other gay males having such relationships. Still very gross (and honestly a little saddening), but he wasn’t the adult in the personal situation he was defending.

Still – this does suggest potentially ominous implications.

Though Google does exist on the corporate plane, with no Official Governmental Authority (well, not counting certain functional overlaps with NSA), its role as gatekeeper does lend it a basic regulatory function.

While I know of nothing positive at all to say about Adams, this particular shutdown could, in other circumstances, be turned against others – even the Respectfully Insolent. Let’s say a respectable site (e.g., mayoclinic.org) gets hit with a malware infestation &/or a big malpractice suit &/or a major PR goof – could they be erased from search results? Could the Trump/Sessions Justice Dept get a court order to delist an operation they consider Fake News®?

A few years ago, some spam-meisters apparently raided an address list from a relatively minor ISP (which I happen to use) and started a spate of obnoxious emails spoofing addresses from that domain. AT&T noticed – and for a while, none of my personal emails could get through to anyone using an AT&T account. That got cleared up, eventually, somehow (not having an AT&T account, I never could reach anybody within that customers-only! organization to register a complaint), but it did sensitize me to the power of arbitrary Internet blockage and its potential abuse.

Despite the fact that some people may find this as stifling “free speech,” Google (like FaceBook) is well within its right as a corporation to list or not list whatever it wants.

That’s just a fact of life on the modern day internet.

Home page comes up for me fine today. I suspect that Adams is getting jumpy because he knows that, if not now then soon, Google will manually tweak the algorithms in ways that will be very damaging to his profits.

Although clicks for most of his products will be very low value, a few cents mostly, he will watch the data very very closely. Occasionally there can be drop-outs for no explicable reason, but it’s highly unlikely that the entire site would be “blacklisted”.

The whole “alternative fact” thing that Trump has set off is bound to lead to a lot of money being spent on the credibility of search technologies, meaning that a site like Adams’ will still be there, but his material being downranked to index pages that nobody ever reaches with standard keyword searches.

Can’t wait.

I do quite love that Mikey goes straight to the conspiracy, there is nothing else that could possibly be happening. I suppose that does whip up his followers more than a post describing the more mundane reasons this type of thing happens.

But I also would not at all be surprised if it turns out he was playing some SEO games which Google’s system did not like, and found himself penalized.

While I know of nothing positive at all to say about Adams, this particular shutdown could, in other circumstances, be turned against others – even the Respectfully Insolent. Let’s say a respectable site (e.g., mayoclinic.org) gets hit with a malware infestation &/or a big malpractice suit &/or a major PR goof – could they be erased from search results? Could the Trump/Sessions Justice Dept get a court order to delist an operation they consider Fake News®?

These are good questions. We know (and Orac has posted on this subject in the past) that anti-vaxers have gamed the Facebook abuse reporting system to silence their critics. Somebody could figure out how to game Google’s system to get sites they don’t like delisted. Google’s algorithms have been gamed in the past (most famously, the group of left-wing bloggers who successfully conspired to make then-President George W. Bush’s official White House bio the top result of a search for “miserable failure”). We know that Google will tweak their algorithm once they figure out how people are gaming it, but it will take time to identify and fix such problems.

I would not worry about the government here. The First Amendment rules against prior restraint do reply to them, and more importantly, there are precedents for allowing fake news as free speech (specifically, Fox News).

Considering he promotes his own search engine which conveniently strips out science or evidence based sites, I really have zero sympathy.

I have no idea why his site got delisted but I suspect it was less to do with fake news and more to do with whatever shady advertising, SEO tactics or other sleaze he was pulling off to elevate his site in the google rankings.

It is shocking to see how many Americans (I presume most of you must be) have such a low information quotient. Amerika has become an echo chamber of sheep, bleating for more toxic food, more toxic pharma, more enslavement. You people really need to expand your reading lists and get with the human program.

@Johnny – NaturalNews.com still not showing up in Google results. Although Natural.News is still there.

I’m still just seeing the shadow NN site listed on Google.

I expect the original site and all its glorious articles to be listed again before long, as whatever was pissing off the Lords of Google will be resolved and they will have deemed Adams to have learned his lesson (the NN take will be that Google privileges were restored due to protestations of the outraged citizenry, but Evil remains a dire threat (and buy my supplements)).

More advocating than ‘defending’. I think he was really attacking the quaint outmoded concept of “consent’, and trying to portray age of consent laws as just another example of liberal tyranny. Pandering to his audience.

Not to defend Milo in any way, but I personally don’t think it’s necessarily impossible for there to be a consensual relationship between a teenager and an older man. One of my best friends had his first serious relationship when he was 16 with a guy in his late 20s, and it was totally mutual and consensual.

This article has a good take on it.

The shut-down of NN’S indexing, if intentional, is censorship. The “fake news” meme was spun by moneyed corporate interests to justify exactly that – censorship.
It span out of control when the alternative media turned it around and used the term against the “real media”‘. Now Trump is using it against them, and rightly so in many cases. Now things are going into a higher gear. Corporate interests are pulling out the stops.
Google, Facebook, Twitter, ad companies can shut down Natural News, Infowars, Breitbart etc because they control the network element of the internet.
And yes, of course it’s a conspiracy.
How would they shut down Trump? Political ouster conspiracy?
Bullet?
Interesting times. Let’s hope reason and logic prevail, not emotion.

I seem to be able to google NN just fine.

No, it is delisted. Search Google for “site:naturalnews.com.” You will get zero returns. The entire site is delisted. You might get Natural.news, which is a shadow site, but the main site is down.

wtf is wrong with this site. Science? Really? Or are you just media shills. Rather than giving a flying fuck about freedom of speech and the press, you have bowed down to slave masters and are now part of the garbage infesting the planet. Did you get a promise of “peerage” or simply to be left alone and ALLOWED to continue your pablum postings? Hmmm?

Home page comes up for me fine today. I suspect that Adams is getting jumpy because he knows that, if not now then soon, Google will manually tweak the algorithms in ways that will be very damaging to his profits.

Well, yes. The website is still up. The NaturalNews.com domain is just delisted in Google. No Google search results will return any links within that domain.

“warned…I would be targeted…

“…blacklisted by Google, entirely without warning.”

So, which is it, you whackjob? Were you or were you not warned?

I just did the experiment myself. Safari v. 10.0.3 under MacOS 10.10.5 (Yosemite), in case anyone reading cares about such details.

The autosuggestion feature in Safari (which is independent of Google) suggested Mike’s real site. But it’s not there in the Google search results, at least not on the first page. Result #1 is the mirror site Mike set up. This blog post is #4.

This blog post is #4.

On further consideration: This probably accounts for the influx of nyms we haven’t seen before. Quite possibly, Mike and friends are encouraging his peeps to do exactly that Google search and give people like Orac a piece of their minds. Or perhaps they are coming up with that idea independently.

“Or perhaps they are coming up with that idea independently.”

I doubt that these true believers are capable of coming up with independent ideas.

I for one am very happy to see Natural News delisted.

I get tired of explaining to my students why it is not a suitable site to source for their papers.

Honestly, I’d rather let them use Wikipedia.

Yes, yes, by all means. If we disagree with them or any of their beliefs we must silence them. And we can. And we should. We are liberals.

Also possible that they had a plan to give a more minor penalty to sites that continue to publish debunked info and it went a little haywire.

I somehow doubt that GreenMedInfo would be doing just fine if this were the case.

wtf is wrong with this site. Science? Really? Or are you just media shills.

That’s pharma shills to you, babycakes.

Let’s say a respectable site (e.g., mayoclinic.org) gets hit with a malware infestation &/or a big malpractice suit &/or a major PR goof – could they be erased from search results?

I think that might not be a terrible thing. If mayoclinic.org got hit with a serious malware infestation, temporarily delisting it could be a good way of limiting the damage. Just because we might consider the Mayo Clinic one of the “the good guys” most of the time does not mean it shouldn’t be quarantined if it becomes a risk. That’d obviously a be a seriously big deal, but it’s something to think about. We all know large, legitimate organizations are not invulnerable to hackers.

Taken to another extreme, it’s as if Mikey has all along been playing by the rules of Russian cyberpropaganda: “it is often not even seeking to be believed. Instead, it has as one aim undermining the notion of objective truth and reporting being possible at all”.

I’m no fan of Natural News and have mocked it myself. That said, this is a chilling development.

The battle of ideas must be won through REASON and CRITICAL THINKING. Not censorship.

Anyone who applauds this move by Google is an enemy of Democracy. I really find it hard to believe a “Science Blog” would be cheering this on. Scary.

I think that might not be a terrible thing. If mayoclinic.org got hit with a serious malware infestation, temporarily delisting it could be a good way of limiting the damage.

G—le has already sort of done that, with the “this site may harm your computer” warning, which I imagine tends to put a good number of people off proceeding (and has generated whining in and of itself).

The usual bots hard at play. If Adams’ site didn’t pose a serious threat to the NWO agenda, there’d be no reason to delist it now, would there?

Well, for years he’s been saying how g–gle et al are *hopelessly* biased towards the lamestream ™ so perhaps he’ll find a way to direct his thralls towards his own alternative.

Seriously.

Over the past 2 years, he’s been shilling his own news sites and fetch engine.

Although I can barely keep count, hasn’t he attempted to launch various enterprises, sites, businesses, cons etc over the years? IIRC, he tried real estate in Ecuador, franchises for food products like NZ green lipped mussels or suchlike, survivalist gear, a social media site, 3D printing, home farms … on and on.

He;s not a man, he’s a money generating engine.

Google is a corporation, it can make whatever decisions it wants to preserve it’s value. That is capitalism isn’t it?

Suddenly you want the government or someone to step in? Hypocrite

Milo losing book deal, pure business. Suck it up. Pun unintentional.

This is private enterprise doing what it does best. What you all keep begging to happen. Unfettered capitalism but now is working against you. Snowflake.

In similar fashion, the Nullmacher has INSISTED that’ he’s a victim of cyberwar and CIA intervention because of the *dangerous* material he discusses and posts on his prn site.
He is a threat to the government and mainstream.
He’s always being hacked like Sharyl Atkisson.

I suppose that it may be a measure of a brave rebel’s value to the resistance:
if the powers-that-be fear him and take action against him, he must [email protected] rule.

One of the reasons I survey these fellows ( and gals) beyond informing others of their nonsense is because their hijinks and inept posturibgs anbd raaaamblings amuse me endlessly.

It;s a hard life, we need entertainment,

survivalist gear,

Oh, he’s still selling survivalist gear, the last I checked anyway, which was yesterday. It’s specifically stores of food for survivalists, though, all APPROVED by the HEALTH RANGER!

New on NN…

It seems that g–gle’s action is part of a PURGE against pro-Trump sites leading to a false flag whatnot… er.. coup d’etat

Blame it on the Times I suppose.

BTW, all of Mikey’s newest articles are unhinged rants in the same vein as his original response to the delisting. He’s now predicting a PURGE of all PRO-TRUMP SITES! (If only…)

I have it on good authority that Natural News was penalized by Google for a “sneaky mobile redirect” that broke their terms and conditions. This happens to a lot of sites. All Mike Adams has to do is fix it and file a reconsideration request to Google and it is all fixed. I will come back and post a link to a story on this when its posted.

It will be interesting to see if he does that, as it will not play into his conspiracy narrative.

@ JP:

I know about him since 2007-8.
He never stops in his attempts to make money.

The other idiot has a plethora of business ops most of which fail and are never mentioned again. A food co-op, a school for health coachery, MLMs to sell his products,
Endless crap.

If and when our Google Masters explain that they are targeting Fake News sites and delisting those that do not contribute to educated discourse, THEN we can wave our civil liberty banners and raise hell.

To do so now would look silly if it turned out that the NN delisting was for some form of SEO misbehavior.

“Anyone who applauds this move by Google is an enemy of Democracy. I really find it hard to believe a “Science Blog” would be cheering this on.”

Enjoying a good laugh at the expense of Mike Adams and his bizarrely over-the-top conspiracy theorizing is hardly a threat to our democratic way of life.

“Did you get a promise of “peerage” or simply to be left alone and ALLOWED to continue your pablum postings?”

We don’t need no steenking titles, as long as those shill buck$ keep arriving on schedule every month.

re ‘playing the martyr’

Someone ( not me) who is good at photoshopping needs to put Mikey’s face on a Renaissance image of the martyr, St Sebastian ( although I venture that the saint was in much better shape and looked better partially nude).

I’m no fan of Natural News and have mocked it myself. That said, this is a chilling development.
@Tom Siebert
“Anyone who applauds this move by Google is an enemy of Democracy….”

Nope; this was simple manipulative violation of Google’s terms and conditions by Natural News. Lots of sites have been removed from Google for the same thing.

Mike Adams was being very disingenuous with the facts over this.

Apparently, this is what he violated:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2721217

Move is about to come to about this (not from me), but as I said above, I will come back and post a link to the story when its published.

I’m no fan of Natural News and have mocked it myself. That said, this is a chilling development.

I am impressed how many visitors are no fans of Mikey and come here to argue that Goofle have some kind of obligation to expose their customers to whatever malware he chooses to post.

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