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The British Columbia College of Naturopathic Physicians investigates naturopaths using CEASE therapy on autistic children

Naturopathy is quackery. If you doubt this, consider that you can’t have naturopathy without homeopathy. What’s even worse is when naturopaths subject autistic children to quackery like CEASE therapy. Expecting any naturopathic regulatory board to investigate quackery in naturopathy is the proverbial fox guarding the henhouse.

I write about naturopathy a lot because, almost alone among alternative medicine “specialties,” naturopaths think of themselves as real physicians. They aren’t, of course. They are, as I like say, basically cosplaying real physicians, but they really do think that their education, training, and methodology are equal to that of MDs (and, in the US, DOs), even though it’s been discussed many times why they are not, why naturopathic “accreditation” is a joke. and just how low standards are in naturopathic “medical” schools. I personally have discussed many incidents of naturopathic quackery that are, as much as naturopaths deny it, well within the accepted practice of naturopaths. I’m referring, of course, to treatments like the use of saliva from a rabid dog to treat a variety of conditions, how naturopaths can make even Epsom salts fatal, the horror of what happens when a naturopath tries to treat pertussis “naturally,” or a clean kill by a naturopathic quack injecting curcumin intravenously. This latter incident, in particular, resulted not in naturopaths in California trying to clean up their acts but rather in their circling the wagons to defend their profession. It was also a very good illustration of why naturopathic licensure doesn’t protect patients from naturopathy because naturopathy is quackery by its very nature. “Licensed naturopaths” are no safer than any other naturopath.

Don’t even get me started on shit naturopaths say when they think no non-naturopaths are listening, or the antivaccine quackery that is at the heart of naturopathy, such that the vast majority of naturopaths are antivaccine. Yes, I know that there are a few who are not, but they are vastly outnumbered by the majority who range from moderately antivaccine to rabidly antivaccine. (Maybe that could be treated with a bit of homeopathic Lyssinum)

Given that naturopaths are making yet another effort to achieve licensure in my state of Michigan (and, sadly, having some success at it), I’m likely to be writing more than usual about naturopathic quackery (but I repeat myself) more than usual, the better to build an armamentarium of examples of why naturopathy is not medicine and why it endangers patients. So, when several people Tweeted this story at me, I took interest:

The College of Naturopathic Physicians is investigating a complaint launched against three B.C. practioners.

The registered naturopaths are said to be offering a treatment known as “CEASE” – Complete Elimination of Autism Spectrum Expression. The idea is largely based on the unscientific claim that Autism is caused primarily by vaccines.

In the treatment, children are “detoxified” using a highly diluted version of the causative agent, or toxin, in order to “purify” the body.

Who are the three naturopaths? Another news story reveals their names:

B.C. naturopaths Anke Zimmermann, Janice Potter and Margret Holland are all certified CEASE practitioners, and the college has acknowledged it is investigating the public complaint against them.

Anke Zimmerman? Hmmm. Where have we heard that name before? Oh, yes, I remember. She’s the naturopath who loves to use homeopathy about whose use of a homeopathic remedy supposedly derived from the saliva of a rabid dog to treat a boy with behavioral issues. We first met her a a little more than month ago. She also uses a homeopathic remedy supposedly derived from gonorrhea. (I swear, you can’t make stuff like this up. At least, I can’t.)

So what is CEASE therapy? It’s been a long time since I’ve written about CEASE, which means that this news story is as good an opportunity to revisit it as any.

First, for those not familiar with homeopathy, I do need to do a little primer again. (I know, I know, there probably aren’t that many readers not familiar with The One Quackery To Rule Them All, but I do occasionally get new readers, and I don’t want to force them to click a link to learn what homeopathy is.) As I like to say, homeopathy doesn’t really qualify even as pseudoscience given that there’s nothing scientific about it and that in reality it shows far more similarity to sympathetic magic than anything else. In other words, there isn’t even enough of patina of science slathered over the quackery to qualify as pseudoscience. It’s magical thinking, pure and simple, in which homeopaths believe that diluting a remedy makes it stronger, but only if it is shaken vigorously (succussed) between each serial dilution step. Even more magically, they believe that it is possible for a compound that has been diluted many orders of magnitude more than Avagadro’s number, such that it’s exceedingly unlikely that even a single molecule of active substance remains, to have a therapeutic effect. They justify this by claiming that water has “memory” and retains some sort of “imprint” of the substance that it’s been in contact with. Never mind that there’s no evidence that water has “memory” beyond an extraordinarily brief period of time. Homeopaths are impervious to reason.

So CEASE therapy involves homeopathy, which is more than enough to make it quackery. That’s not all, though. It also involves the belief that vaccines are the cause of autism, which they are not. So let’s take a look at CEASE therapy again. It’s an invention/delusion of an actual MD (unfortunately) named Tinus Smits, who “discovered” CEASE:

Dr. Smits discovered in his practice with over 300 cases the foundation of CEASE therapy and came to his hypothisis [sic] of what causes autism. In his experience autism is an accumulation of different causes and about 70% is due to vaccines, 25% to toxic medication and other toxic substances, 5% to some diseases. With isotherapy (see below), a form of homeopathy using the causative substances themselves in homeopathic preparation, the toxic imprints can be erased.

He continues:

The treatment of autistic children and even adults has matured through 300 cases over the last three years and is called CEASE Therapy, which stands for Complete Elimination of Autistic Spectrum Expression. Step by step all asumed causative factors (vaccines, regular medication, environmental toxic exposures, effects of illness, etc.) are detoxified with the homeopathically prepared, that is diluted and potentized substances that were administered prior to the onset of autism. Currently we use the 30C, 200C, 1M and 10M potencies to clear out the energetic field of the patient from the imprint of toxic substances or diseases.

Of course, a 30C dilution means 30 serial 100-fold dilutions, or a 1060-fold dilution. A 200C dilution means 200 serial 100-fold dilutions, or a 10400-fold dilution. 1M means 1,000C, or a 102000-fold dilution. You get the idea. Indeed, one can’t help in these situations to point out that Avagadro’s number is approximately 6 x 1023? That means if you dilute a one molar solution of something by approximately 12C (1024), then the solution is highly unlikely to have more than one or two molecules of the substance left. Take the dilution up to 30C, 100C, and beyond, and the odds rapidly become vanishingly small that a single molecule will remain. How small? Well, for a comparison that I frequently use when I’m giving talks that include a section on homeopathy, there are only estimated to be approximately 1080 atoms in the observable universe. Also remember, when Smits says that he’s using these different potencies, what he’s doing is increasing the “potency” at each step by using a more diluted remedy:

The duration of a remedy course depends on the severity of the problems and the reactions of the patient and can vary from 2 weeks to 2 months. Potencies should be repeated until no further improvement is seen before passsing to the next poetency. After each course a 1 or 2 week break is applied. The administration is carried out by letting 2 granules melt in the mouth.

So basically Smits is deluded into thinking that he’s using increasingly strong medicine to treat his patients.

What, however, is “isotherapy”? Smits is happy to explain:

Using the causative substances as a homeopathic remedy, their profound toxic effects can be witnessed as the children begin to react to the remedies. The reactions on the isopathic remedies are so characteristic, that there can be no doubt about the existence of a link between the toxins as the cause and the development of Autism as its effects although this is not considered as scientific proof. In this way Dr. Smits discovered, step by step, why autism and other behavioral problems, with their specific developmental problems, have so dramatically increased over the last ten to twenty years. It also became clear that autistic children do not suffer from one single cause but from an accumulation of different causes.

Do tell. So it sounds as though Smits uses vaccines and other “toxins” as the basis for his homeopathic “detoxification.” Of course, inquiring minds want to know: How much of each vaccine is in the starting material? Does he replicate the CDC vaccination schedule and then use some of that as his starting tincture for his homeopathic dilutions? This is about as close to an explanation as Smits comes:

The homeopathic method as applied in the treatment of vaccination damage consists of administering four successive remedies of the suspected vaccine.

I’m guessing Smits must use a lot of MMR. Actually, no he doesn’t. After all, if he’s making such diluted solutions of vaccine he could buy one vial and then use it for decades. Later, he claims:

All autistic children should be detoxified using the homeopathically diluted remedies of the vaccines that have been administered to the child.

And:

Autistic children should never again be vaccinated!

One more time. Vaccines do not, as far as science has been able to tell, cause autism. Many have been the epidemiological studies, and none of the large, well-designed ones have found a hint of a whisper of an association between vaccination and an increased risk of autism.

Of course, homeopathy isn’t the only quackery in CEASE. As any good quack is, Dr. Smits is very much into high dose vitamin C, claiming that it “seems to play an essential role in protecting children against the adverse effects of vaccinations or other stress inducing events.” Whether vitamin C plays a role in protecting against stress-inducing events is still up for discussion, but it surely doesn’t prevent, treat, or cure autism.

Let’s conclude by getting to training. The three naturopaths being investigated are listed as being “certified CEASE practitioners.” Apparently, it means undergoing “training” by one of a few CEASE practitioners who appear to be acolytes of Dr. Smits, such as Kim Kalina. There’s a CEASE Facebook page showing various training sessions, such as:

You get the idea. Show up at a CEASE course, and get a certificate that’s not worth the paper it’s printed on. But what do these courses cover? Here’s one by Kim Kalina herself given last summer:

The course will cover

  • how to individualise, evaluate the need for and accurately apply each of the core components of CEASE – Isotherapy Remedies, Orthomolecular Supplements and the ‘Saturday’ Remedies
  • how to recognise which cases are best suited to CEASE vs Classical Homeopathy
  • the additional case-taking skills, questions and information needed in a CEASE case
  • the key ‘ Saturday’ remedies, potencies and posology indicated in autism cases, as well as other frequently indicated remedies in general CEASE cases – including specific Inspiring Homeopathy, Matridonal and Sarcode remedies.
  • the key Orthomolecular supports needed to support cellular detoxification in various types of CEASE cases, including supplements, vitamins, baths, etc.
  • how to apply and adjust the Isotherapy components of CEASE, including resources for info about drugs, vaccines etc. and extensive vaccine charts Kim has personally developed to enable practitioners to quickly identify which vaccine may need to be cleared based on unique characteristic symptoms of each
  • how to manage CEASE cases – this is perhaps the single most important aspect of the training, and Kim uses several of her own cases (not just autism cases), as well as FAQ’s from clients and practitioners, to take participants through many follow-ups, crises, etc. so that practitioners can learn how to handle the many case management issues that can arise and how to correctly interpret and manage each one
  • how to manage herxheimer reactions – don’t know what these are? This is essential info if you want to use CEASE safely and appropriately!
  • other supports and therapies that are very beneficial in CEASE cases, particularly in the management of these complex cases – specific cell salts, bowel nosodes, flower essences and additional therapies to consider that can help the healing process to unfold much more gently and easily

Such a lot of quackery. I note that, elsewhere, it is revealed that Smits died in 2010 and Kalina is carrying on his legacy of quackery. She is also described as “one of the five approved instructors for the CEASE Organization (the others being in the Netherlands, Germany and Sweden), and brings extensive experience in both teaching and clinical case management to the CEASE community.” Kalina also misuses the concept of the Herxheimer reaction, , which is sometimes seen after the initiation of antibacterials for tick borne relapsing fever. It was first described as a reaction to the treatment of syphilis with penicillin and is also seen after treatment of other diseases caused by spirochetes, such as Lyme disease and leptospirosis. Basically, this reaction is due to the release of endotoxin-like products by microorganisms as they die off during antibiotic treatment. Yes, basically, Kalina is claiming that CEASE therapy can cause a “healing crisis” in which the patient gets worse before getting better. This is a common claim among quacks.

So what will happen? It’s noted in one story:

College bylaws prohibit false and misleading advertising, including marketing “likely to create in the mind of the recipient or intended recipient an unjustified expectation about the results which the registrant can achieve.”

The college also forbids naturopaths from advising against vaccination unless there is a “sound, and properly documented, medical rationale for doing so.”

I expect that nothing will come of this complaint against these three naturopaths. After all, if any “board” of naturopathy were actually to enforce standards like the ones above, it would have to take away the license of pretty much every naturopath under its regulatory authority.

Michigan legislators, take note. This is what naturopaths want for Michigan, and, if you pass a naturopathic licensure bill into law, this is what they will get.

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41 replies on “The British Columbia College of Naturopathic Physicians investigates naturopaths using CEASE therapy on autistic children”

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The situation in British Columbia is interesting as the decision to grant naturopathy recognition and scope of practice COULD be subject to legal challenge – an application for Judicial Review could be made if interested parties could scrape together to get public law lawfirm on the case. More broadly, all sorts of challenges are possible to Canadian naturopathy. Excuse the shamless plug for my blog but http://ukhomeopathyregulation.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/suggestions-on-naturopatyhomeopathy-in.html details this.

It’s certainly the case that an omnibus complaint to Colleges might form part of a strategy to get rid of CEASE therapy. As would making Provincial Ministers of Health aware of such an omnibus complaint.

It’s going to be interesting to see what Canadian activists will be able to do given the increased media attention on quackery.

basically, Kalina is claiming that CEASE therapy can cause a “healing crisis” in which the patient gets worse before getting better. This is a common claim among quacks.

In fact, anything that happens after administering those ‘remedies’ is a sign that said ‘remedies’ are working. And even if nothing happens, homeopaths can twist that to their advantage too (which is not really surprising, of course, as selling ‘nothing’ is actually their core business…).

Here’s how homeopaths keep sucking money out of their gullible customers:
– The situation improves? Great! It’s working! Keep on going (read: keep on paying me…)!
– The situation gets worse? Don’t worry, we see it all the time, it’s a sure sign it’s working! Keep on going (read: keep on paying me…), and you’ll see improvement eventually!
– Nothing seems to happen? That is quite normal — especially in these cases, the treatment can take several months to kick in. So don’t give up, just keep on going (read: keep on paying me…)!
– Oh, it’s been six months now, and still nothing happens? Well, I may have got the symptoms not quite right … but have good news for you: there are plenty more remedies we can try! So let’s schedule a full session once again to really get those symptoms sorted out (read: pay me even more…), and we’ll find the correct remedy, you just mark my words!

College bylaws prohibit false and misleading advertising…

Here in the Netherlands, complaints of precisely this nature were lodged against CEASE therapists (mostly homeopaths) with the Dutch Advertising Code Committee. All cases were ruled in favor of the plaintiffs, and the homeopaths were told to stop offering CEASE therapy. Ditto with complaints against homeopaths offering ‘homeopathic prophylaxis’ in lieu of real vaccinations. In all cases, the committee found the defendants guilty of endangering public health, misleading consumers and making false claims with regard to health. Unfortunately, the Advertising Code Committee has no powers to enforce their rulings. The best they can do, is send out a few nag letters, raise a warning finger, and that’s basically it. As could be expected, most homeopaths simply responded by raising another finger, and continuing with what they were doing, sometimes merely in somewhat more covert language.

I find it quite infuriating that these quacks can basically defraud people with impunity, endangering the lives of their children in the process. In any other field but health care they could and would be prosecuted for fraud. But somehow calling this type of proven fraud ‘alternative health care’ shields against most normal legal repercussions.

There’s are differences between Canadian law (which with the exception of Quebec) which is based on common law and Dutch law which is based on Civil law.

Whilst a vast over-simplification, it is often said that in Civil Law systems what is not permitted in law is forbidden whereas as in Common Law what is not forbidden is permitted. This is particularly relevant to the practice of medicine. Common law systems don’t outright forbid quackery – especially new varieties of quackery whereas Civil law systems generally do – unless they explicitly recognise. Dutch law opened the door to quackery. At one point the practice of medicine was purely restricted to the medically qualified. This is still true in many Civil law jurisdictions. France is the most familiar example but Quebec is also a Civil law jurisdiction.

In Common law jurisdictions, yes, persons can be prosecuted for practicing medicine without a license but the evidential test is different from Civil law jurisdictions. If a quack doesn’t represent themselves as a doctor, might get away with in most of Canada but in Quebec, they’d face criminal prosecution and it’s not uncommon.

To quote from Smits –

*… All kinds of detoxification reactions may occur. The most common are eliminative reactions with an increase of reactivity (fever). Fever should not be treated with medication, as it is a healthy reaction of the organism and not a disease! It helps greatly to overcome an acute disturbance, shortens the healing process, stimulates reactivity and avoids complications. Eliminations like diarrhea, flu, expectoration, and bad-smelling and cloudy urine should also be left alone, because they are a part of the healing process.

A case of diarrhea as a cleansing reaction
I remember an autistic child who got diarrhea during the detoxification of his vaccines. The diarrhea relieved his system so much, that his autism almost disappeared instantly. After ten days the mother started to worry and went to the family doctor because I was absent at that moment. He prescribed Immodium (Loperamide) to stop the diarrhea by paralyzing the peristaltic motions of the bowels. Almost immediately the child had a setback and became autistic as before. The diarrhea was a perfect detoxification for his bowels and brain. Neither the doctor not the mother understood this, and the medication interfered with the progress of the cure.*

Neglect can kill.

@ brainmatterz:

TMR is the THINKING MOMS’ REVOLUTION – an anti-vax website managed by very woo-entranced mothers who proselytise against vaccines and promote all sorts of woo. Take a look.

“The idea is based on the largely unscientific claim that Autism is caused primarily by vaccines.”

“Largely”?

“Autistic children should never again be vaccinated!”

So if your child with autism is running around outside (having fun even) and steps on a rusty nail, you’re not supposed to get them a tetanus shot? Let them develop a nice natural case of lockjaw? What if they get bitten by a rabid animal? No rabies shots? (Or are those not “vaccines” so it’s OK?)

I feel so bad for the children who are subjected to this.

Just FYI: Rabies shots come in two forms: immunoglobulin and the vaccine. When someone has been exposed to rabies, the full vaccine series is recommended. If they’ve been bit by an animal who is suspicious for rabies (like a possum running around in broad daylight) then the immunoglobulin is also given. The immunoglobulin contains active antibodies to produce an immediate immune reaction to destroy the rabies virus before it take hold since vaccination takes time to produce antibodies by the body. There’s a forumula for the dose based on weight, and a percentage of the immuoglobulin is injected directly into the wound, with the rest given intra muscularly. In some cases the dose has been so large that I’ve had to give as many as four IM injections to a patient.

Fortunately that doesn’t happen often, but it’s a reason why vaccinating our pets is so important, and why efforts to get the vaccine into the wild animal population (to reduce the reservoir) are gaining in importance (they place an oral vaccine into bait).

But yeah, it’s kinda stupid to think we’d let our kids get diseases like tetanus or rabies. But remember, there were people historically who fought against smallpox immunization during a time when everyone knew what smallpox did to you when you got it. So the cray cray that an anti vax parent might fail to get their kid a rabies shot if they petted a raccoon isn’t so far fetched.

Way back when I frequented MDC, there were in fact people crazy enough to recommend skipping treatment for tetanus-prone wounds, because it’s an obligate anaerobe and so hydrogen peroxide will fix the problem.

@JustaTech My mother was an antivaxxer. When I was a teenager, I fell while climbing outside, and in the process lost my shoe and got my foot cut open on rusty metal. My mother’s response was “Let’s wash it thoroughly and I guess we can consider a shot if you start to get symptoms.” (Teenage me was very into science and particularly microbiology and knew exactly what happens when you are dying of tetanus, and therefore was…not particularly happy about this, but I was a minor and couldn’t do anything. )

That’s … horrifying. I am so sorry that happened to you! (Clearly you got better, but still.)

I learned about lockjaw at the Gettysburg Battlefield national park from a very evocative park ranger who was describing the relative death rates of the foot soldiers and the cavalry and wow. I never again complained about having to get a tetanus shot before going to horse camp.

Does anyone else find the name of this treatment ““CEASE” – Complete Elimination of Autism Spectrum Expression” somehow menacing? Final? Threatening?

I mean, if you were a monster there are plenty of ways to make a person stop “expressing” anything.

Final solution anyone? Or is it just me and my german brain saying Nazis didn’t just get rid of Jews, but persons with special needs

persons with special needs

They did. Special needs peoples were used as beta testers for the chambers before it was put to uses for the jews.

As I echoed elsewhere in a comment thread of this blog, I do get to be concerned about the current body of knowledge in autism who often start with:

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We are far from informed on this particular issue.

Alain

p.s. I was once invited to submit my information to an autism surveillance and tracking study for epidemiological purpose.

But Smits was an allopathic physician! How can these naturopaths use this therapy, considering its tainted roots? Or is it only chiropractors who complain about “allopaths”? It seems that Smits’ hypothesis works out to “regular, allopathic medicine” plus some other stuff, causes autism.

I’m not completely sure, but I think Tinus Smits started as homeopath and then did a medical study, without specialising. When you study medicine in The Netherlands, you have to an additional study to specialise, for family doctor, pediatics, or any other specialisation. So if you just had the medicine study you are a basic medic. At least that is what I understand. I don’t know how things are exactly.

Is “gag me with a spoon” still a hip expression?

I was quite surprised to find that “Valley Girl” made it to No. 12 on the Billboard chart, but I don’t think it ever was hip.

Anke Zimmermann decides to “correct” misconceptions about CEASE therapy here – https://www.drzimmermann.org/blog-vaccines-homeopathy-autism-cease-therapy/cease-therapy-misconceptions-and-truths Although I imagine that some may be moved to leave comments, I doubt very much she will approve them. It’s full of the same tired old canards trotted out by naturopaths, anti-vaccinationists, etc…

I read the Smits book. She seems to have read a very different book from the one I read. See http://ukhomeopathyregulation.blogspot.co.uk/2018/03/homeopathic-treatment-of-autism.html for a very detailed analysis of what Smits said. It was a very distressing read – it’s a chronicle of neglect, false hope, blatent exaggeration and taking credit for development that has nothing to do with homeopathy. It contains a perception of autism that is both deeply offensive to those with autism and highly toxic. Smits, from various accounts, was a very arrogant man. Dutch sources tell me that he had run-ins with authorities over his anti-vaccination stance.

Zimmermann is a complete quack. If you go and read her case studies, you will give yourself a migraine. In a blog entry where she takes 2.5 years to “figure out” that a child was “damaged” by the Vitamin K shot at birth (after blaming the great-grandfather’s TB and the fertility drugs the mother took), she has the audacity to claim “Homeopathy, especially isotherapy can easily identify the culprits causing chronic disease.” https://www.drzimmermann.org/successful-clinical-cases/a-case-of-chronic-insomnia-restlessness-and-excessive-crying-in-a-baby-linked-to-the-vitamin-k-shot-at-birth

You know, my nephew was very similar at that age. We did nothing and he outgrew it right around 3 and a half. No homeopathy required.

Oh, good lord. You’re right: this would induce a migraine in any sensible person.

So basically, colic was never investigated as a cause of the fussiness. That’s what i get out of this.

Instead the “naturopath” experiments on the child, trying one thing after another until the family reports the baby is better, and then triumphantly proclaims the magical water is what did it.

The irony I can’t escape here is I debate all the time with people who diss physicians because “It took years to diagnose my problem” and what do we have here?

A naturopath takes 2.5 years to diagnose and treat a problem. Only, I doubt highly the water did anything at all, and the kid just grew out of it as kids are wont to do.

I hate to see such stupid articles on the internet there are so many crazies out there who think that medical doctors are Gods, it’s so sad, if there’s one profession I don’t like in America it would be “medical doctors”… anybody who can’t see that is ignorant, I will definitely block this website and this kind of information….

There are good and bad people in all professions in all walks of life in all cities and countries across the world….but……

All I have to say to this person who wrote this is “Get a life”

Errrrrrr, how do you “block” a website?

And maybe you would care to share your undoubted wisdom on what the real causes of autism actually are? I’d be all ears on that one…

Translation: I can’t heeeeeaaaaarrrr yooouuuu! Nananananananana! [clapping hands to ears]

“I’m going to block you.” How childish. If you aren’t interested, just don’t click on the website, dude.

Please do exit. Your run-on sentences are tedious; I’m glad that I’ll never have to risk seeing another one.

It has long amazed me that so many alt-med/anti-vax and the rest types do not seem to be able to manage the basics of sentences and paragraphs nor the simplest of punctuation.

My old professor of botany back in the ’70s would have a whale of a time with them: he insisted that all of our essays and practical write ups were correctly spelled and grammatically correct in order to reduce the likelihood of ambiguity and misunderstanding.

How prevalent is “spagyric (non-)medicine” insourcing countries? I had recently come in contact with a poor deluded crazy and was quite disturbed how unbelievable (as in how can anyone believe this shit) this stuff is

A coworker used it on the new house she was moving into, because there were some accidents delaying the moving process, so she sprayed it into the aura…
Maybe they slipped on globulin or something…

The acronym CEASE scares me a little. It makes me think that if the child’s autistic expression doesn’t CEASE, then the problem could be solved by having his life CEASE.

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